Sr. Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 I am upgrading MB/CPU/RAM in my current system and am curious what kind of PD increase and performance boost I can expect... thought I'd run it past the hardware gurus. Moving from an i5-7600K/16GB DDR4 2400/1080ti to AMD RYZEN 9 3900X/32GB DDR4 3600/1080ti New MB will be a MSI B450 TOMAHAWK (if that even factors in) I currently run moderate specs: High terrain/textures, most other eye candy off or low and PD at 1.0 yielding a decently playable 40-45fps in VR. (Las Vegas map) Thanks in advance Sr. Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
maxsin72 Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 I am upgrading MB/CPU/RAM in my current system and am curious what kind of PD increase and performance boost I can expect... thought I'd run it past the hardware gurus. Moving from an i5-7600K/16GB DDR4 2400/1080ti to AMD RYZEN 9 3900X/32GB DDR4 3600/1080ti New MB will be a MSI B450 TOMAHAWK (if that even factors in) I currently run moderate specs: High terrain/textures, most other eye candy off or low and PD at 1.0 yielding a decently playable 40-45fps in VR. (Las Vegas map) Thanks in advance Sr. I suggest you to wait a couple of weeks and buy an AMD 5800X: Dcs is a single core game and the new ryzen will be the fastest single core and multicore cpu.
Rudel_chw Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 Modern processors performance is kind of misleading .. the 3900X achieves a great deal of its horsepower by using 12 cores, while your current 7600K has only 4 ... however, since DCS is mostly a single core software the actual performance difference is not great. The 7600K has a passmark single core performance of 2570 while the Ryzen has 2730. In my opinion I would upgrade RAM and GPU rather than changing the CPU. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
maxsin72 Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 Modern processors performance is kind of misleading .. the 3900X achieves a great deal of its horsepower by using 12 cores, while your current 7600K has only 4 ... however, since DCS is mostly a single core software the actual performance difference is not great. The 7600K has a passmark single core performance of 2570 while the Ryzen has 2730. In my opinion I would upgrade RAM and GPU rather than changing the CPU. AMD 5600X will score 3500 at passmark for 299$ while 10900k score 3180 for 550 $. https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-3-ryzen...u-in-passmark/ 1
wormeaten Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 Yes, wait with this till January. AMD is releasing Ryzen 5000 series. This will affect even on 3000 series price to drop more. Also if you will not doing any professional work or streaming and Video editing on a professional level buying 3900X or 10900K is pointless, a waste of money. it is better to go with 3600XT or maybe 3800XT once prices drop. 3800XT just if you doing something else but playing games and DCS in VR. The best option will be 5600X, a little more expencive but the best performance in games. Again 5800X just in case you doing other serious workloads on PRO level and you need more core power. Check on this video performance of 3080 vith Ryzen 5 3600. There is no bottleneck on 4K gaming like on lower resolutions. So for DCS in VR 3600 is good. Also MBO I suggest you ASUS ROG Strix B450 F Gaming. Similar prices and performances as MSI Tomahawk but got some better options for Gamers such better Network or on board Audio is significantly better. Also If you think you need B550 for Ryzen 5000 series not exactly. It is more dependent on you. There is no real benefit from it and B450 will get Bios upgread for 5000 support in January. If you decide for B550 who is about 40$ more than Aorus B550 PRO or ROG Strix B550 F is bestbuy options for gamers.
Rudel_chw Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 AMD 5600X will score 3500 at passmark for 299$ ... The processor isnt available yet, so I would take any benchmark of today with a large grain of salt ... it wouldn't be the first time that AMD has made exaggerated claims. For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Zoomer Posted October 23, 2020 Posted October 23, 2020 Wait a month or so and make an informed decision. Crazy not to wait with so much new hardware on the horizon.
maxsin72 Posted October 24, 2020 Posted October 24, 2020 The processor isnt available yet, so I would take any benchmark of today with a large grain of salt ... it wouldn't be the first time that AMD has made exaggerated claims. It's enough to wait till 5th of november and i'm sure that new AMD 5000 cpus will crush intel's ones. 1
Sr. Posted October 25, 2020 Author Posted October 25, 2020 Thanks for all the info! For now I have gone with the R9 3900X. Luckily, it seems the MB I bought (MSI B450) will support the upcoming 5000. I have spent the last few days tweaking hardware OC profiles etc. Currently running the 3900X at 4.15GHz, 32GB DDR4 RAM at 3600MHz and have left the 1080ti at stock speeds... only because DCS gets 45 fps OC'd and 60-75fps stock speeds (explain that one):dunno: I am VERY pleased with the frame rate and visual improvement. It's so nice to be able to read the cockpit now.:suspect: Ryzen 7 5800X3D | 64GB DDR4 3600| MSI RTX 4080 16GB Ventus 3X OC | Samsung 970 Evo 2TB NVME | Quest 3 | Logitech X-56 throttle | VKB NXT Premium | Win 11 "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C Clark
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