Laser Mavs / tgp help please

[markturner1960]

Hi, practicing using these and having some issues.....sometimes it works, sometimes not and I can’t see why....have been following Spud and red kite guides.....for example, in the screen shot below, The Maverick won’t come off the rail, and I am just repeating the same procedure I just used to pickle the first 2.....can anyone spot what’s wrong?

 

Thanks

 

 

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[DAGI]

In your screenshot, the MAV has no laser lock.

 

You can see this since it is a “x” and not a solid box is the seeker page on the left DDI

 

You can also see that the laser is just armed and not firing in the HUD.

(L ARM in stead of flashing LTD/R)

 

There have been some updates lately I think, where the laser starts shooting after the first press of weapon release, then wait for the seeker to spot the laser, then press weapon release again to rifle.

 

The laser will automatically lase the target until impact..

(Remember to re- arm the laser after each run)

 

 

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[Recluse]

Hi, practicing using these and having some issues.....sometimes it works, sometimes not and I can’t see why....have been following Spud and red kite guides.....for example, in the screen shot below, The Maverick won’t come off the rail, and I am just repeating the same procedure I just used to pickle the first 2.....can anyone spot what’s wrong?

 

Thanks

 

 

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Yes. As the previous poster said, Hit the PICKLE button once to fire the laser, or hold down the pickle to fire the laser and fire the Maverick. The L ARM in the HUD will switch to flashing LTD/R to indicate that the laser is firing and the MAV x will turn into a solid box.

 

IF LTD/R is flashing and the MAV is not locking, switch TDC to the FLIR page and it should lock. This is an "issue" that affects some people but which has not been reproduced by the ED team. Usually, under MOST conditions, it should work OK as is once a Target is DESIGNATED correctly, the MAV is uncaged and LTD/R is flashing

 

See these threads:

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/english/digital-combat-simulator/dcs-f-a-18c-hornet/291865-laser-maverick-tgp-switchology

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/forum/english/digital-combat-simulator/dcs-f-a-18c-hornet/291822-laser-problem-with-tp

[markturner1960]

Ah, thanks, will try that out,

[Recluse]

I see you have TRIG boxed in the FLIR. This is no longer necessary and the LASER will no longer keep firing unless the TRIG is kept depressed. Unbox TRIG and just use the PICKLE button as described above to automatically fire the laser. When LTD/R is flashing, the laser is firing.

[vstolmech513]

It's also worth noting that the DDI that the TPOD is on has to have TDC priority (diamond in top right corner) for it to 'fire' the laser for the Mav to pick it up. Not sure if it is a bug or correct for the TPOD to continue blinking LTD/R when the TDC priority is not on the DDI that the TPOD is on, but it will either not lock at all or it will blink between the X and the square but not actually lock on without TDC priority on the TPOD (or that's the issues I found I was having when I could not get a solid lock on the Mav).

[Frederf]

I do not find that to be true. I have emitter laser energy without the FLIR format being selected or even displayed. I know that's the case when firing the laser by the weapon release button and if memory serves it also applies to the manual trigger.

 

I've also gotten missile transition to lock, fire, and hit all while not having the MAV format selected. Certainly not having it selected can cause issues which hamper locking but it is possible to lock without it selected.

[Bearfoot]

It's also worth noting that the DDI that the TPOD is on has to have TDC priority (diamond in top right corner) for it to 'fire' the laser for the Mav to pick it up. Not sure if it is a bug or correct for the TPOD to continue blinking LTD/R when the TDC priority is not on the DDI that the TPOD is on, but it will either not lock at all or it will blink between the X and the square but not actually lock on without TDC priority on the TPOD (or that's the issues I found I was having when I could not get a solid lock on the Mav).

 

This has been my experience as well.

 

I suspect this is a bug, though, that arose in one of the recent patches (and moreover, seems to be a little bit difficult to reproduce: not everyone experiences it, and many who do experience it only rather patchily). I myself find it consistently impossible for the LMAV to pick up the emitter unless the TDC is assigned to the TPOD format even if the laser is firing (as indicated by the flashing symbol). Conversely, the instant I switch from the Mav format DDI to the TPOD DDI it turns solid and I can launch.

[imacken]

 

This has been my experience as well.

 

I suspect this is a bug, though, that arose in one of the recent patches (and moreover, seems to be a little bit difficult to reproduce: not everyone experiences it, and many who do experience it only rather patchily). I myself find it consistently impossible for the LMAV to pick up the emitter unless the TDC is assigned to the TPOD format even if the laser is firing (as indicated by the flashing symbol). Conversely, the instant I switch from the Mav format DDI to the TPOD DDI it turns solid and I can launch.

 

That is not my experience. Doesn't matter whether the TPOD is SOI or not for me. Works every time without an issue as long as the procedure is strictly adhered to.

[Bearfoot]

 

That is not my experience. Doesn't matter whether the TPOD is SOI or not for me. Works every time without an issue as long as the procedure is strictly adhered to.

 

Yes, definitely seems to be working (or not working, depending on how you look at it!) differently for different folks.

 

So weird ...

[LeCuvier]

I cannot get the mavericks to have the same code as the TGP. The mavericks, at mission start, have the code "1111" and the TGP has "1688". And when I enter "1688" via the UFC that doesn't affect the mavericks. They still show "1111". And the word "CODE" is flashing in the HUD. With this constellation I can never fire the mavericks. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

[Recluse]

I cannot get the mavericks to have the same code as the TGP. The mavericks, at mission start, have the code "1111" and the TGP has "1688". And when I enter "1688" via the UFC that doesn't affect the mavericks. They still show "1111". And the word "CODE" is flashing in the HUD. With this constellation I can never fire the mavericks. Any idea what I'm doing wrong?

 

You have to set the code on the MAV separately from the TPOD using the UFC button on the STORES page. You can set the code on the Mavericks on the ground, but you cannot set the CODE on the TGP until you are in the air (AG Master Mode needed). The LTD/R switch needs to be on as well so you can enter the code on the UFC next the LTDC. If you leave the default on the TPOD, you only need to change the MAV code.

 

Edited October 28, 2020 by Recluse

[LeCuvier]

 

You have to set the code on the MAV separately from the TPOD using the UFC button on the STORES page. You can set the code on the Mavericks on the ground, but you cannot set the CODE on the TGP until you are in the air (AG Master Mode needed). The LTD/R switch needs to be on as well so you can enter the code on the UFC next the LTDC. If you leave the default on the TPOD, you only need to change the MAV code.

 

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Thanks for pointing me to Chuck's guide! I didn't realize it covers the subject. But I can still not the code for the mavericks. So instead I set the code for the TGP to match that of the Mavericks. Apart from that, I still can't even close to firing the MAV E using laser designation from my TGP. The hog is so much easier!

 

[Recluse]

Thanks for pointing me to Chuck's guide! I didn't realize it covers the subject. But I can still not the code for the mavericks. So instead I set the code for the TGP to match that of the Mavericks. Apart from that, I still can't even close to firing the MAV E using laser designation from my TGP. The hog is so much easier!

 

Hmmm what seems to be the issue? The MAV defaults to 1111 and this is NOT a valid Laser code for the TGP. Here's a short TRK (Caucasus) that shows changing BOTH the MAV code and the TGP code in flight. Successfully firing it. It took awhile to find the laser. As others have posted, if the TDC were in the FLIR DDI it would have been instantaneous, but it works for me (eventually with most targets).

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