thereminqblank Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Plenty of reviews have been published about the upcoming nVidia cards. The Anandtech review shows that in pretty much all the benchmarks, the new cards are being spanked by the 9800GX2! And in quite a few cases, is being bested by 2x 8800GT in SLI! I just had a look around at the online stores, and the new cards are debuting between £430 and £550. Seems like a waste to me! http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3334 I hope the new ATI cards will show better bang for buck! "Unholy Roller" [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC]
159th_Viper Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 I hope the new ATI cards will show better bang for buck! Aye - Eagerly awaiting the new ATI offerings prior to upgrading my Fossilized machine :D Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
ED Team Groove Posted June 17, 2008 ED Team Posted June 17, 2008 First i need a 30" TFT Monitor :D Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
thereminqblank Posted June 17, 2008 Author Posted June 17, 2008 First i need a 30" TFT Monitor :D I'm intending on going for two 24" monitors, one with a touch screen :D DCS is going to get me plenty of disapproving looks from the girlfriend, that's for sure! "Unholy Roller" [sIGPIC]http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/images/userbars/A-10C_UserBar_01.gif[/sIGPIC]
Flyby Posted June 17, 2008 Posted June 17, 2008 Sli, Crossfire or single card? I'm waiting for more reviews of the GT260 card, as well as the new ATi 4870. It's been difficult to sort out whether or not to go SLi Crossfire, or just a good single card solution. Either of the new Nvidia cards can handle the higher resolutions in single-card configuration. I haven't found a good review of the ATi 4870 yet. I'm speculating (hoping) that card will perform close to the GT260 card. Is Crossfire any more stable than SLi? Will Black Shark scale well in either mode? That's my big concern. I've read that not all games do scale well in SLi mode. I don't know about Crossfire. Besides, I'm interested in the new Intel P45 chipset too. Can't go SLi with that chipset, only Crossfire. So again. maybe a single card solution is best for now? But depending on the chipset, when prices drop, will I get more bang for the $ if I can buy a second ATi card, or a second Nvidia card. Nvidia seems to have the relative performance edge, so eventually having two GT 260s might be a raving good decision! Oh, my head hurts thinking about it! Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
ED Team Groove Posted June 18, 2008 ED Team Posted June 18, 2008 There is a guy on German Hardware Forum who has two Ati 4850 Single Slot Vidcards. If you run them in Crossfire mode, they will beat a Nvidia 280 in all benchmarks. Cost of one 280 in Germany: 500-500 Euro, cost of two Ati 4850: 320 Euro :D Plus owners of the new Nvidia 280 tell you barely can play with this vidcard because the noise of the fan is like a turbine in 3d modus. Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Flyby Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 now let me get this straight There is a guy on German Hardware Forum who has two Ati 4850 Single Slot Vidcards. If you run them in Crossfire mode, they will beat a Nvidia 280 in all benchmarks. Cost of one 280 in Germany: 500-500 Euro, cost of two Ati 4850: 320 Euro :D Plus owners of the new Nvidia 280 tell you barely can play with this vidcard because the noise of the fan is like a turbine in 3d modus. I'd have to know that my favorite sims run smoothly in either SLi or Crossfire modes. It doesn't seem as if either mode is a blessing to work with in regards to the combat flight sims I favor . While two of this card or two of that card may out-perfrom a single GX260 (I'm not made of GX280 money) I'd rather just avoid the hassle, including needing a humungus power supply to handle two cards, and get a very good single card solution. In that arena the 260 is hard to beat. As for fan noise, I would usually have on headphones, and background noise would probably come from a set of Z5500 speakers. Who could hear a gpu fan? Also, going with Crossfire or SLi is probably best for someone running very high resolutions like 25xx X 16xx on big screen lcd monitors. Keep it at or below 24" and a 260 can handle that easily enough. Finally, it does not seem that all games scale very well in dual card mode so far as I've read. Going from one card to two does not always mean going from 50-fps to 100-fps. It seems this is very game-dependent. Maybe someone can tell us how BS scales with two cards? Or even LOMAC/FC? Or IL2? Or FSX? Always willing to learn here. Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 Good looking out, Acedy.I may ask the AV8R about that card. But I'm tempted to go with a single card/gpu solution just for the reasons you state. Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 a review update new reviews at Tom's Hardware site: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-gtx-280,1953.html Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 we can be happy now! Good looking out, Acedy. Impressive reads, and a big hoorah! for ATi for bringing performance in at a managable price. Allow me to contribute a bit of info too ;) http://techreport.com/discussions.x/14970 Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
ED Team Groove Posted June 19, 2008 ED Team Posted June 19, 2008 As i already mentioned, 2 4850s beats a single GTX 280 Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Flyby Posted June 19, 2008 Posted June 19, 2008 rgrt Groove, I'll have to track those results down. But I'll feel a lot better when I see BS running optimized for either Crossfire(X) or SLi mode. For that matter, I wonder if there are any combat flight sims that are (will be) optimized to use two GPUs. It is my bad fortune that all the sims I own are flight sims, and only one of them is not a combat flight sim. So for me deciding on a video card, and even a motherboard is very important. What's a body to do?:helpsmilie: Flyby out 1 The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
diveplane Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 mega bucks for the new gpu range. 1 https://www.youtube.com/user/diveplane11 DCS Audio Modding.
hitman Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 As i already mentioned, 2 4850s beats a single GTX 280 What about dual GTX? :D
Pilotasso Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 There is a guy on German Hardware Forum who has two Ati 4850 Single Slot Vidcards. If you run them in Crossfire mode, they will beat a Nvidia 280 in all benchmarks. Cost of one 280 in Germany: 500-500 Euro, cost of two Ati 4850: 320 Euro :D Plus owners of the new Nvidia 280 tell you barely can play with this vidcard because the noise of the fan is like a turbine in 3d modus. Well I have a year old 8800GTS and I havent maxed it yet. The markets going insane with hardware way more advanced and capable for the software in existence. .
Flyby Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 Pilotasso, what sims are you flying (playiing) that your card is not maxed out? Of course that's a great system you have there! Flyby The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
ED Team Groove Posted June 20, 2008 ED Team Posted June 20, 2008 What about dual GTX? :D Dual 4870X2 ? :) 1 Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
ED Team Groove Posted June 20, 2008 ED Team Posted June 20, 2008 Pilotasso, maxing out your card is no problem :o) Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Pilotasso Posted June 20, 2008 Posted June 20, 2008 maybe, but my games are all CPU bound. I run Supreme commander maxed out. .
Flyby Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 good find! been looking for a review to pop up anytime. expected it to rival the -260. The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 good find! been looking for a review to pop up anytime. expected it to rival the -260. The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 good find! been looking for a review to pop up anytime. expected it to rival the -260. sorry for the double post, but there is a problem when I try to use quick reply. I hit the submit button and the little loading arrows go around and around forever, so I switch to full reply and send it. The messaeg usually posts right away then, but I get a warning that it's already been posted. I check and there is only one message. this time there were two. I don't know what's wrong. The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 24, 2008 Posted June 24, 2008 ratz!!! The first review of the HD 4870: http://en.expreview.com/2008/06/24/first-review-hd-4870-and-hd-4850/ Pros: -powerful, head to head with the GTX 260 though cheaper, 10-15% behind the GTX 280 (with only half the vram that is) -DX 10.1 Cons: -HOT -high power consumption :mad::mad::mad: the link won't open the full page. I can see it's from China but that's about all I see. The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
Flyby Posted June 25, 2008 Posted June 25, 2008 FORUM WHORE! awww man! did I deserve that? I was so earnestly trying to explain as clearly as I could...well... you know me.:smilewink: Flyby out The U.S. Congress is the best governing body that BIG money can buy. :cry:
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