Joni Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) Do you guys see that all the harpoons always smash the water after acquiring target? Is it reported? Is it just me? Thanks. Edited January 10, 2021 by Joni Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5
Joni Posted January 10, 2021 Author Posted January 10, 2021 I found out that with R/BL, flight low, skim and search low they always smash the water. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5
Ramsay Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) I haven't tested the Harpoon lately (waiting for the radar SEA mode) - as I find them frustrating/pointless ATM. Can you share a track. Edited January 10, 2021 by Ramsay i9 9900K @4.8GHz, 64GB DDR4, RTX4070 12GB, 1+2TB NVMe, 6+4TB HD, 4+1TB SSD, Winwing Orion 2 F-15EX Throttle + F-16EX Stick, TPR Pedals, TIR5, Win 11 Pro x64, Odyssey G93SC 5120X1440
jojo Posted January 10, 2021 Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Joni said: Do you guys see that all the harpoons always smash the water after acquiring target? Is it reported? Is it just me? Thanks. Not on my side (Open Beta) 5 minutes ago, Ramsay said: I haven't tested the Harpoon lately (waiting for the radar SEA mode) - as I find them frustrating/pointless ATM). Can you share a track. The best tactic I found so far. The worst thing for me is the lack of ship's damage model. You're just damaging the ship's life bar. Edited January 10, 2021 by jojo 1 Mirage fanatic ! I7-7700K/ MSI RTX3080/ RAM 64 Go/ SSD / TM Hornet stick-Virpil WarBRD + Virpil CM3 Throttle + MFG Crosswind + Reverb G2. Flickr gallery: https://www.flickr.com/gp/71068385@N02/728Hbi
Joni Posted January 10, 2021 Author Posted January 10, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Ramsay said: I haven't tested the Harpoon lately (waiting for the radar SEA mode) - as I find them frustrating/pointless ATM. Can you share a track. 26 minutes ago, jojo said: Not on my side (Open Beta) The best tactic I found so far. The worst thing for me is the lack of ship's damage model. You're just damaging the ship's life bar. Attached a track, shows how 3 missiles smash the water when setting in flight low. Tried with seek small, medium and large. Am I doing something wrong? Thanks. harpoon water smash bug.trk Edited January 10, 2021 by Joni Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5
Joni Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 Any thoughts guys? Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5
CarbonFox Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 I had this happen as well. Not sure what can be done right now. I'm just going to wait for the damage model to finish. I also thought the Harpoon has a terminal flight mode where it will climb rapidly an dive into the target. F/A-18C; A-10C; F-14B; Mirage 2000C; A-4E; F-16C; Flaming Cliffs 3
Joni Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 I tested more and seems that the skim profile is broken. If you select pop it will not crash. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5
emibat Posted January 14, 2021 Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) What's your speed? Maybe you are too slow. Try at 300 or 350 kts At 250 kts I had the same problem with the SLAM-ER. The missile didn't have enouth initial speed Edited January 14, 2021 by emibat [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Joni Posted January 14, 2021 Author Posted January 14, 2021 18 minutes ago, emibat said: What's your speed? Maybe you are too slow. Try at 300 or 350 kts At 250 kts I had the same problem with the SLAM-ER. The missile didn't have enouth initial speed Huh? I am not having any issue with range. See OP. It smashes the water when trying to skim. Intel Core i5-8600k + Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO | Gigabyte GTX 1070 Aorus 8G | 32GB DDR4 Corsair Vengance LPX Black 3200MHz | Gigabyte Z370 Aorus Gaming 3 | WD Black SN750 NVMe 500GB | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB | WD Green 240GB | WD Caviar Black 1TB SATA 3 | WD Caviar Blue 500GB SATA 3 | EVGA 650 GQ 80+ Gold | Samsung CF391 Curved 32" | Corsair 400C | Steelseries Arctis 5 --- Razer Kraken X Lite | Logitech G305 | Redragon Dyaus 2 K509 | Xbox 360 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Thrustmaster TWCS | TrackIR 5
lawyer Posted March 17, 2021 Posted March 17, 2021 Hi, everyone, I am using the stable version (not the beta one), and I have observed the following behaviour of the AGM-84D harpoons: I have set the AGM-84D up at flight level LOW. Terminal mode either SKIM or POP UP, no difference: When using A/G radar in SEA mode *and* designating radar targets with TDC depress, and subsequently setting the harpoons to bearing/distance launch mode, the harpoons will stay at 5000 ft until *very* close to the target, then dive at the very last moment and occasionally hit the water before levelling off. Even if they do level off before hitting the water, they will do so just before hitting the target and never reach a proper flight path. When using A/G radar in SEA mode and merely using the radar to determine the proper bearing to the target, leaving the harpoons at BOL (bearing-only-launch) mode, they will dive to low-level upon target acquisition, follow the proper flight path (skim or pop-up) and hit the target as expected. I was able to reproduce this behaviour, both with an Elnya tanker and a Handy Wind cargo ship in the Caucasus environment. It must have something to do with the target designation by TDC. Until this is sorted out, I suggest to use SEA A/G radar just to get the proper bearing and launch in BOL mode. Happy landings Sigmar, aka Lawyer
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