Russian Radio Calls when firing a weapon?

[Dammerung]

I asked over at the Ubi board, but no one seemed to know, so I figured i'd ask here. American(NATO?) aircraft give a call of 'Fox 1', 2, 3 when firing a missile and 'Guns Guns Guns' when firing their cannon. What do Russians say over the Radio when they fire a missile or their guns?

 

...And also, will these be in Flaming Cliffs?

[Kenan]

Don't they (in LOMAC) say something like "Raketa poshla" ie. rocket gone ?

[ThirdELTPoznan]

I dont think so. I know that thay say "bombs gone" and "guns, guns" but they dont say nothing when firing A/A missiles.

[Dammerung]

I'm not asking about Lomac, I'm asking about the Real Russian Airforce.

[Olgerd]

According to Russian AF "Combat Readiness Course" (it is an official doc), the phrases are:

1) "Launch" ("Pusk" in russian) for missiles launches;

2) "Release" ("Sbros" in russian) for bombs releases;

3) "Fire" ("Ogon'" in russian) for gun employment.

 

[DarkStar]

And this is implemented in FC?

[Olgerd]

Ahh not. The docs was obtained just about a month ago. Do you realize that russian samples should be recorded again for that? It's too late as the game release in on the way.

[DarkStar]

No problem there Olgerd :D Looking forward to FC anyway :D

[169th_Jaws]

Looking forward to it too!

 

And who knows, maybe zzzspace can weave some more sound-editing magic!

[F l a n k e r]

I don’t know if this is discussed elsewhere.

I found in a German MiG-29 pilot’s interview that the eastern fighters, instead of western ones, are completely in control of the “fighter command” (I don’t know if this is the correct meaning of the Italian terms “guida caccia”), that order to the pilot itself what he must to do, and in some cases the controller from the “fighter command” can also take the control over some systems of the plane. So, the pilot don’t have got a real “situation awareness”. The “fighter command” also provides a data-link with the plane like an AWACS does. CAP missions were consequently not executed.

The things are changed nowadays?

[britgliderpilot]

I don’t know if this is discussed elsewhere.

I found in a German MiG-29 pilot’s interview that the eastern fighters, instead of western ones, are completely in control of the “fighter command” (I don’t know if this is the correct meaning of the Italian terms “guida caccia”), that order to the pilot itself what he must to do, and in some cases the controller from the “fighter command” can also take the control over some systems of the plane. So, the pilot don’t have got a real “situation awareness”. The “fighter command” also provides a data-link with the plane like an AWACS does. CAP missions were consequently not executed.

The things are changed nowadays?

 

Yep - the Soviet aircraft were indeed supposed to be directed to a single target by a ground controller. Ground-controlled autopilot, single target datalink, stuff like that.

 

It's not so much the pilot losing situational awareness . . . . the pilot wasn't supposed to take independent decisions, just to follow orders. Situational awareness was never a factor in that system - the pilot never had to make a decision about which target to engage, or whether he should make evasive maneuvres.

 

 

I would be extremely surprised if Russian tactics haven't changed by now - but you need to ask the Russian military how long the Soviet ideas prevailed in the air force . . . . .

 

 

The old systems aren't modelled in Lomac . . . it's no fun not having free will :P

[SwingKid]

According to Russian AF "Combat Readiness Course" (it is an official doc), the phrases are:

1) "Launch" ("Pusk" in russian) for missiles launches;

2) "Release" ("Sbros" in russian) for bombs releases;

3) "Fire" ("Ogon'" in russian) for gun employment.

 

That's interesting. The defecting MiG-29 pilot Alexander Zuyev once wrote that during training, they would announce messages like "Рубеж один" ("Range one!") over the radio, when "launching" imaginary missiles. The "one", "two" indicated what type of weapon. Maybe it's only during training?

 

-SK

[diveplane]

Looking forward to it too!

 

And who knows, maybe zzzspace can weave some more sound-editing magic!

 

 

 

ARCHERS sound mod blow zzzspaces away :lol:

[Starlight]

“fighter command” (I don’t know if this is the correct meaning of the Italian terms “guida caccia”)

 

GCI, Ground Controlled Intercept, è il termine corretto

saluti,

Matteo

[F l a n k e r]

Thanks Starlight.

[Olgerd]

According to Russian AF "Combat Readiness Course" (it is an official doc), the phrases are:

1) "Launch" ("Pusk" in russian) for missiles launches;

2) "Release" ("Sbros" in russian) for bombs releases;

3) "Fire" ("Ogon'" in russian) for gun employment.

 

That's interesting. The defecting MiG-29 pilot Alexander Zuyev once wrote that during training, they would announce messages like "Рубеж один" ("Range one!") over the radio, when "launching" imaginary missiles. The "one", "two" indicated what type of weapon. Maybe it's only during training?

 

-SK

 

As a rule in Russian AF there is not present a joint standart to many specific commands - many of them may be briefed only at particular operation or at particular joint command level. It increases a security of operations but also increases a pilot workload as well.