Tomahawk and AGM 86C terrain following issue

[hamza_Khan]

Both of these missiles get hit and destroyed  by trees or buildings, It seems like they can navigate through terrain but if there is a building for trees in path, they just fly straight and get destroyed. Meanwhile Kh59M works perfectly and can navigate through buildings and trees.   

[Flappie]

I've just tested both missiles. They hit their target without touching trees nor buildings.

Track attached.

 

If you keep seeing issues with these missiles, please attach a short track.

AGM-86 and Tomahawk.trk

Edited January 20, 2021 by Flappie
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[Northstar98]

On 1/17/2021 at 7:11 PM, hamza_Khan said:

Both of these missiles get hit and destroyed  by trees or buildings, It seems like they can navigate through terrain but if there is a building for trees in path, they just fly straight and get destroyed. Meanwhile Kh59M works perfectly and can navigate through buildings and trees.   

 

I'm pretty sure the Tomahawk and AGM-86 only have RADAR altimeters, and not a coupled TFR, so that might explain that. But even so, it would be best to include a track, to see exactly where this is happening.

[Silver_Dragon]

Tomahawk has a GPS, INS, TERCOM, DSMAC, active radar homing guiadance. AGM-86 INS TERCOM and GPS. They have not have radar to make TFR. ED has not "simulate" TERCOM and DSMAC on DCS.

[Northstar98]

27 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Tomahawk has a GPS, INS, TERCOM, DSMAC, active radar homing guiadance. AGM-86 INS TERCOM and GPS. They have not have radar to make TFR. ED has not "simulate" TERCOM and DSMAC on DCS.

 

Ah I see, they use elevation data instead (which they should be using anyway for waypoints), I guess because of the very limited fidelity of the missiles as you mentioned, as well as the fact that neither can be programmed beyond, hit here, that's where a problem arises.

 

Also, are you sure the Tomahawk has active RADAR homing? AFAIK only the BGM-109B TASM has this ability (anti-ship missile variant of the Tomahawk, using essentially the guidance systems off of the Harpoon). At the moment we're using the BGM-109C, which should have GPS/INS, TERCOM and DSMAC. Though we also have the 3D model for a BGM-109E Tactical Tomahawk (to the same quality as the C).

[Silver_Dragon]

4 hours ago, Northstar98 said:

 

Ah I see, they use elevation data instead (which they should be using anyway for waypoints), I guess because of the very limited fidelity of the missiles as you mentioned, as well as the fact that neither can be programmed beyond, hit here, that's where a problem arises.

 

Also, are you sure the Tomahawk has active RADAR homing? AFAIK only the BGM-109B TASM has this ability (anti-ship missile variant of the Tomahawk, using essentially the guidance systems off of the Harpoon). At the moment we're using the BGM-109C, which should have GPS/INS, TERCOM and DSMAC. Though we also have the 3D model for a BGM-109E Tactical Tomahawk (to the same quality as the C).

 

Yes TASM BGM-109C has not active homing, only TLAM antiship version BGM-109B has active radar. ED has other BGM-109E BlockIV Tomahawk on the EDM directory, but not implemented yet.

 

Only a part of not implemented weapons and other Stuff.