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Hey @Klabo. You're having the "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" kind of crash. It means the game loses communication with the GPU. From the outside, it sounds like a graphics driver issue, but it's not always the case. Cause number one and two are GPU and RAM overclocking. However, sometimes it's caused by a small pagefile.

 

I see your pagefile is quite small (5GB), and I know DCS often doesn't like that very much.

  

2021-02-10 06:28:48.211 INFO    DCS: CPU cores: 6, threads: 12, System RAM: 32710 MB, Pagefile: 5120 MB

 

Manually edit your Windows pagefile settings:

  • Disable automatic handling of pagefile
  • Set initial size to 32768 (32 GB)
  • Set max size to 32768 (32 GB)

Next time you launch DCS, the log should show a 32 GB pagefile. Please let us know how it goes.

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Unfortunately, the pagefile trick didn't help. You're still getting the "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" error. 

2021-02-14 02:11:06.490 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: Failed to create shader resource view for /textures/a-10c_dam.dds. Reason: The GPU device instance has been suspended. Use GetDeviceRemovedReason to determine the appropriate action.
2021-02-14 02:11:06.506 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
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2021-02-14 02:11:06.481 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create index buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2021-02-14 02:11:06.481 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20210214-021106 --------------
2021-02-14 02:11:06.481 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.59625 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042)
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2021-02-14 02:11:06.482 INFO    EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2021-02-14 02:11:06.483 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 8BD2C370 00:00000000
2021-02-14 02:11:06.485 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19042 () 0x300-0x1
2021-02-14 02:11:06.658 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000012C370 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x12DE0
2021-02-14 02:11:06.661 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000043E01 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x2AE71
2021-02-14 02:11:06.664 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000886BC (Effects2): ed::Random::genInt + 0x5724C
2021-02-14 02:11:06.664 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000121587 (Visualizer): RenderParserImpl::DrawTransparentAll + 0x87
2021-02-14 02:11:06.665 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000126C3C (Visualizer): RenderParserImpl::isEmpty + 0x484C
2021-02-14 02:11:06.667 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000015BF98 (Visualizer): smSceneManager::CreateSceneManager + 0x7588
2021-02-14 02:11:06.667 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007B02A7 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3BE537
2021-02-14 02:11:06.668 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007C3AB3 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3D1D43
2021-02-14 02:11:06.668 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000794834 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2AC4
2021-02-14 02:11:06.674 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000794BF9 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2E89
2021-02-14 02:11:06.676 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000064B7E (dxgui): gui::ModalWindow::doModal_ + 0x4E
2021-02-14 02:11:06.676 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000006D96 (dxgui_win_adapter): gui::ApplicationWin::updateWindowFocusWarning + 0xD6
2021-02-14 02:11:06.676 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000794C87 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2F17
2021-02-14 02:11:06.676 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000018572FC (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xBEA2F8
2021-02-14 02:11:06.678 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000098462E (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x5928BE
2021-02-14 02:11:06.681 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2021-02-14 02:11:06.681 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000004D241 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2021-02-14 02:11:07.233 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

 

Ensure your drives have sufficient free space.

Here are links to solutions that worked for some users:

 

Empty "C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Temp|\DCS.Openbeta" folder.

Disable ingame SSLR.

Remove GPU overclocking.

Remove RAM overclocking.

Remove dust from CPU coooler.

Change PSU.

 

If none of them work, please attach your dxdiag log.

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Hi 

 

This is my Comp. spec.

 

Z370 GAMING PRO CARBON

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8700K CPU @ 3.70GHz  OC to 4.80 GHz

EVGA SuperNOVA 850 G2, 80+ GOLD 850W, Fully Modula

EVGA GeForce GTX 1080 GAMING ACX 3.0, 8GB GDDR5X, LED, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Card 

G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)

Western Digital WD BLACK SN750 NVMe M.2 2280 1TB PCI-Express 3.0 x4 64-layer 3D NAND Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) 

VR Quest2 

Windows 10 64-bit

 

Only Change what I made. I upgrade from this memory

XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model AX4U266638G16-DRG to memory above. Not overclocked They run on 3600. 

OC only processor to 4.80GHz. Run stable for hours on AIDA 64 stress test.

SSLR is disabled. I can't find DCS open beta folder.

 

When I launch the game , I get to the main screen and try to exit game. I get message" Windows out of focus ".

 

My IL-2 sturmovik works flawless after RAM upgrade Feels like upgrade GPU.

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Klabo,

 

Down-clock your GPU. Crashes to desktop are often, if not usually, causes by excessively high GPU clock speeds.

 

Graphics cards are often heavily overclocked right from the factory, so even if you have not overclocked yours, it might be running much too fast already and it isn't quite stable. The GPU crashes and the sim dumps you to the Windows desktop--that's why you're getting the DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED error.

 

Down-clock your GPU by maybe 200 MHz or thereabouts and try again. Once it's stable, bump the GPU clock up again in small increments until you find a nice, fast speed where it's still completely stable.

 

Worked for me.

 

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On 2/14/2021 at 8:31 PM, Klabo said:

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G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 16GB (4 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800)
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Only Change what I made. I upgrade from this memory

XPG GAMMIX D10 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2666 (PC4 21300) Desktop Memory Model AX4U266638G16-DRG to memory above. Not overclocked They run on 3600.

...

 

Hi @Klabo. According to MSI, your RAM must be overclocked to run @3600 on your motherboard (XMP enabled = OC).

This is probably the change that DCS can't stand: your previous RAM was not overclocked, but your new RAM is.

 

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Try lowering your RAM OC, and if DCS keeps crashing, try disabling XMP completely (@2666). At least, we'll know if the DCS issue comes from your RAM OC or not.

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OK. Please try what is often suggested by ED crew:

  1. Rename your Saved Games\DCS folder as "DCS.backup". The game will subsequently start with default settings and default controls.
  2. Launch any mission and see if you keep crashing.
  3. Still crashing? Then try a cleanup and repair.

After all this, if you keep getting the same DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED crash, open a support ticket if you haven't already.

 

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Thanks for the tests. You keep having the same symptom, which is a repetition of the "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" message from the moment the mission starts (3 seconds after the "GRAPHICSVISTA: Creating Resource "Unicode" of type 1" message).

  

2021-03-04 05:37:45.767 INFO    VISUALIZER: Preload() finished
2021-03-04 05:37:45.785 INFO    DCS: Screen: mission_offline
2021-03-04 05:37:45.786 INFO    Dispatcher: precache units resources in slots
2021-03-04 05:37:45.925 INFO    Lua: Lua CPU usage: metric: average mission loading: 1.5140 %
2021-03-04 05:37:45.925 INFO    Dispatcher: loadMission Done: Сontrol passed to the player
2021-03-04 05:37:46.677 INFO    GRAPHICSVISTA: Creating Resource "Unicode" of type 1
2021-03-04 05:40:25.302 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2021-03-04 05:40:29.788 WARNING LOG: 330 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2021-03-04 05:40:29.788 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2021-03-04 05:40:29.788 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:379
2021-03-04 05:40:29.788 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create vertex buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2021-03-04 05:40:29.788 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: Failed assert `false && "failed to create vertex buffer"` at Projects\render\dx11backend_win8\Source\DX11BufferManager.cpp:379
2021-03-04 05:40:29.791 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2021-03-04 05:40:34.579 WARNING LOG: 307 duplicate message(s) skipped.
2021-03-04 05:40:34.579 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: failed to create structed buffer. Reason: DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED
2021-03-04 05:40:34.579 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: CreateShaderResourceView FAILED. Reason: E_INVALIDARG
2021-03-04 05:40:34.581 ERROR   DX11BACKEND: DX device removed. Reason: 0x887A0006
2021-03-04 05:40:34.581 INFO    EDCORE: try to write dump information
2021-03-04 05:40:34.582 INFO    EDCORE: # -------------- 20210304-054034 --------------
2021-03-04 05:40:34.582 INFO    EDCORE: DCS/2.5.6.59625 (x86_64; Windows NT 10.0.19042)
2021-03-04 05:40:34.582 INFO    EDCORE: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d11.dll
2021-03-04 05:40:34.583 INFO    EDCORE: # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 74E898A0 00:00000000
2021-03-04 05:40:34.584 INFO    EDCORE: SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: '.;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World;C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\system32;SRV*C:\websymbols*http://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols;', symOptions: 530, UserName: 'klabo'
2021-03-04 05:40:34.585 INFO    EDCORE: OS-Version: 10.0.19042 () 0x300-0x1
2021-03-04 05:40:35.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000001298A0 (d3d11): CreateDirect3D11SurfaceFromDXGISurface + 0x10310
2021-03-04 05:40:35.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000030897 (dx11backend): createRenderer + 0x17907
2021-03-04 05:40:35.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000798F3 (edterrainGraphics41): edtg41::TerrainRenderable::dumpRenderItem + 0x694C3
2021-03-04 05:40:35.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000CE577 (edterrainGraphics41): createInstancerRenderable + 0x36ED7
2021-03-04 05:40:35.848 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000DC428 (edCore): ed::this_thread::yield + 0x318
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000000D39CA (edCore): ed::make_render_thread_tasks + 0x1A
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000007C3AE8 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3D1D78
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000794834 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2AC4
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000794BF9 (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x3A2E89
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x00000000018572FC (DCS): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0xBEA2F8
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x000000000098462E (DCS): CoreUtils::TempFilesManager::operator= + 0x5928BE
2021-03-04 05:40:35.849 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000017034 (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x14
2021-03-04 05:40:35.850 INFO    EDCORE: 0x0000000000052651 (ntdll): RtlUserThreadStart + 0x21
2021-03-04 05:40:36.366 INFO    EDCORE: Minidump created.

 

 

I've just read you couldn't find the Temp\DCS.openbeta folder. Just copy-paste this and you'll find the folder I was talking about: %HOMEPATH%\AppData\Local\Temp

Then simply delete the "DCS.openbeta" folder you'll find in there.

 

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On 2/26/2021 at 10:04 PM, Klabo said:

didn't help.

reinstall the DCS, DDU video driver, Install new video driver. Now looks like errors allover DCS log files

 

dcs.log-20210227-025336.zip 3.7 MB · 1 download

 

Klabo,

 

Did you try down-clocking your GPU? The "DXGI_ERROR_DEVICE_REMOVED" message means your GPU is crashing. That's why your system is crashing to desktop instead of giving you a Blue Screen.

 

Messing around with reinstalling/repairing DCS isn't gonna help with that and neither will re-installing Windows and/or changing graphics drivers most of the time.

 

If it's always, always doing it, and muffing about with graphics drivers, Windows settings, repairs/reinstalling, different brand of beer, different swear words etc. aren't helping, it's probably an excessive GPU clock--even if you haven't overclocked your GPU.

 

It's very common for GPUs to be factory overclocked excessively right out of the box. Great benchmark scores, but lousy stability. Reduce GPU clock speed and fly a while, see what happens!

 

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On 3/5/2021 at 1:08 AM, Klabo said:

Yes I did down clock my GPU  200 MHz using EVGA X1- precision "couldn't go any lower" and same crash. 

I can try older driver.

and try to delete open beta folder.

Thanks guys for checking my "desperado" moments

 

Beer UP

 

Did you try rolling back your driver to nvidia 457.51?

 

 

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Yes driver 457.51 and no difference still crash. Same error!

I lowered GPU clock 200 mhz Same crash. Lowered GPU clock 200 and memory clock 100 mhz crash after 15min instead 2 min. have been changing frequencies and no go. same crash!!

Open support ticket to ED 5 days ago and no answer yet?  

All games work just fine I have just flying games. I can do on my comp. anything for hours. Play games on line of line all good until I get in to DCS .

Well after flying DCS for over 20 years and spending bunch of many on it and because of it, going to put this former awesome game. 

But have to admit still better then toaster made in you all know where. 

 

Thank guys for all help

 

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