IcedVenom Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 I am not sure when this change happened, but now the default loadout selections are not usable. The max weight of the JF-17 in instant action is 12,500kg. Two PL-5's, two dual SD-10's and two 1100L fuel tanks make up 12,541kg, just outside of the 12,500kg limit. Is this a bug, or is it supposed to be this way? I've flown with even more on my JF-17 in the past. How come now all of a sudden I am unable to load the aircraft with fuel tanks and 2x dual SD-10's?
paco2002 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 8 hours ago, IcedVenom said: I am not sure when this change happened, but now the default loadout selections are not usable. The max weight of the JF-17 in instant action is 12,500kg. Two PL-5's, two dual SD-10's and two 1100L fuel tanks make up 12,541kg, just outside of the 12,500kg limit. Is this a bug, or is it supposed to be this way? I've flown with even more on my JF-17 in the past. How come now all of a sudden I am unable to load the aircraft with fuel tanks and 2x dual SD-10's? I mean... That's quite a heavy payload for what it usually carries
Foogle Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 First: Dual SD-10 racks have not been seen on an operational aircraft to my knowledge. Second: if they were used, they would not be loaded with the 1100L tanks for that reason. So the 'realistic' loadout would be with 800L tanks.
Mustang25 Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 Also, you can still take off when you're slightly above max weight.
Foogle Posted April 16, 2021 Posted April 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Mustang25 said: Also, you can still take off when you're slightly above max weight. That's normal. MTOW is not a number that says 'you cannot take off' it specifies a number where it becomes unsafe to take off due to aircraft limitations. MTOW affects many aspects of an aircraft's performance. It will affect stopping distance after a rejected takeoff, takeoff performance (including engine failure), climb performance, taxi weights, and many structural aspects. MTOW will be chosen so that the requirements for all of these conditions are met.
IcedVenom Posted April 16, 2021 Author Posted April 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Mustang25 said: Also, you can still take off when you're slightly above max weight. Oh I just assumed it would not let me even select the load-out if it was above the weight. After trying again it seems it still lets you even if you're over the maximum weight. This is different from the MiG-21bis. Thanks for clarifying things for me. 7 hours ago, Foogle said: First: Dual SD-10 racks have not been seen on an operational aircraft to my knowledge. Second: if they were used, they would not be loaded with the 1100L tanks for that reason. So the 'realistic' loadout would be with 800L tanks. I had no idea twin SD-10's were not used on the aircraft in service. Any idea why that is, or why we have twin SD-10's in the game? Is this a Chinese loadout?
Foogle Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, IcedVenom said: I had no idea twin SD-10's were not used on the aircraft in service. Any idea why that is, or why we have twin SD-10's in the game? Is this a Chinese loadout? It was shown on one of the static mockups IIRC, but that's probably a better question for @uboats Edited April 17, 2021 by Foogle
IcedVenom Posted April 17, 2021 Author Posted April 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, Foogle said: It was shown on one of the static mockups IIRC, but that's probably a better question for @uboats That makes sense now. I wonder if China uses dual SD-10 racks or not. Probably not as to get the most speed for them for max distance.
uboats Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 PLAAF uses PL-12 dual rack, (iirc same one as the static jf model showing) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] My DCS Mods, Skins, Utilities and Scripts | Windows 10 | i7-4790K | GTX 980Ti Hybrid | 32GB RAM | 3TB SSD | | TM Warthog Stick | CH Pro Throttle + Pro Pedal | TIR5 Pro | TM MFD Cougar | Gun Camera: PrtScn |
dimitrischal Posted April 17, 2021 Posted April 17, 2021 MTOW is heavily influenced by rejected takeoff requirements ie stoppping the takeoff and not running over the end of the runway every time among other things. Since this is a game we can accept more loose restrictions so feel free to load all you can and strap a fat lady on the back for good measure!
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