fixed again Help with mission 2

[Sylosis]

I have a few basic questions about Mission 2 :

 

First of all, is there a guide somewhere to help with basic things that more casual dudes like me might not understand? There is a lot of terminology I don't get on the radio chat. For example : Rock. Is ROCK the same thing as BULLSEYE? (same goes for Knock it off, I had to search a few minutes on the internet to find the answer to what that means)

Moreover, looking through different tutorials on Youtube, when I'm told the bogey is "Rock 068 for 32", I understand this as "heading 68 from bullseye, distance 32nm". That being said, in order to navigate, I would need to select the bullseye as my active waypoint and make it an A/A waypoint. This way, I'd see the bullseye in my SA and be able to know where to go.

All of that being said, how do I know if the missions were made with one of my waypoints on the bullseye?

Thanks for the help

Edited April 18, 2021 by Sylosis

[Padre Pio]

Generally, in Raven 1: "Rock" is Bullseye. It is mentioned somewhere in the oveerall R1 manual if you are not sure. There is also a glossary there with some "strange" callouts, but not all of them. People who have read the story, have much easier task with the campaign (it is recommended). I havenn't yet but I was able to pass R1. 

 

Setting the Bullseye is necessary in (let's say) half of the missions. After you set, you have the readouts on your radar in the upper-left corner. They show the radial and distance of your radar CURSOR based on bullseye. Works nearly the same way on the SA page. It needs a little bit imagination and math-orientation. It is easier if you set  SA range level wide enough to make a Bullseye visible there. The same sitation on the radar screen but remember where you exactly are in relation to bullseye.

 

Info about ROCK is on every kneeboard attached to each mission. You've got an info about all the waypoints there. Printing of the kneeboard in R1 is HIGHLY recommended before the mission

Edited April 19, 2021 by Padre Pio

[=Panther=]

Rock is preprogrammed as a waypoint on all missions. You will need to set it as AA Wypt each time though.

[Sylosis]

6 hours ago, =Panther= said:

Rock is preprogrammed as a waypoint on all missions. You will need to set it as AA Wypt each time though.

 

Oh ok thx. So in this mission I had, if I remember right, waypoints 1 to 5.

 

And I don't remember reading in the briefing which one was Rock. Did I miss it? Was it written and my lame brain didn't know how to read? 

[=Panther=]

It is on the kneeboards located in your Game installation Directory /Mods/Campaign/Raven One/Docs it is also labelled as Rock in the HSI Data. 

[Sylosis]

5 hours ago, =Panther= said:

It is on the kneeboards located in your Game installation Directory /Mods/Campaign/Raven One/Docs it is also labelled as Rock in the HSI Data. 

Ah ok, so with you said and what was also told by Padre Pio, I essentially have to manually enter it as a new waypoint using the info from the kneeboard. Gotcha.

Thanks.

[Padre Pio]

No no no,  you will create many new waypoints soon,  but not now. "Rock"  is always one of the existing WPs. All you need to do is to check which one in the proper kneeboard and then tell the same to your F-18,  using HSI - > Data subpage.  

[Sylosis]

Just now, Padre Pio said:

No no no,  you will create many new waypoints soon,  but not now. "Rock"  is always one of the existing WPs. All you need to do is to check which one in the proper kneeboard and then tell the same to your F-18,  using HSI - > Data subpage.  

I'm trying the mission at the moment and indeed, just saw on the kneepad that Rock is already programmed. 

[Padre Pio]

Yes,  Waypoint called Rock is already programmed,  but you have to assign it in the system as Bullseye. That's all

[Creasy85]

hey, just played through the second mission and I have mixed feelings.

possible spoilers ahead.

Spoiler

after taking fuel from the tanker we went for waypoint 4 where the 1 on 1 was supposed to start. I changed the frequency to magic to check in which we did. Afterwards I though we are going to practice dogfight with smoke but there weren't any comms to startup the fight. So I kinda missed the whole fighting. A message came a Fencer was coming so I intercepted and kept him company but he didn't seem bothered by my radar lock. Then I got low on fuel and was offered to disengage and landed on the ship. 

Mission completed. Yet,

What I'm wondering is...

1) how to initiate the dogfight?

2) what am I supposed to do with the Su-24?

cheers!

 

Edited July 10, 2022 by Creasy85

[baltic_dragon]

After AAR I think you are supposed to go to WP3 (or maybe it is 4)? Then your wingman should move away pretty far and then call he is turning back, where your task is just to get him on your radar and intercept, there is no dogfighting. 

The Fencer will do his thing until his pilot decides it is time to fly away, you have to stay with him until it happens (yes, correct fuel management is the key!)

 

[PawlaczGMD]

On 7/20/2022 at 3:46 AM, baltic_dragon said:

After AAR I think you are supposed to go to WP3 (or maybe it is 4)? Then your wingman should move away pretty far and then call he is turning back, where your task is just to get him on your radar and intercept, there is no dogfighting. 

The Fencer will do his thing until his pilot decides it is time to fly away, you have to stay with him until it happens (yes, correct fuel management is the key!)

 

I will try again, but just now Smoke did not initiate his fight. I stayed around WP4 waiting, he just kept orbiting around 35 nm away. No other story events happened for 15-20 mins and I gave up. Any ideas? Is it possibly caused by me moving away from WP4 too far away?

[baltic_dragon]

Hey, sorry for late reply @PawlaczGMD - had some family issues IRL to take care of. Did you manage to get past the problem? I'll check M02, but this may be the bug I described earlier as so far for me everything worked OK. 

[PawlaczGMD]

2 hours ago, baltic_dragon said:

Hey, sorry for late reply @PawlaczGMD - had some family issues IRL to take care of. Did you manage to get past the problem? I'll check M02, but this may be the bug I described earlier as so far for me everything worked OK. 

I skipped this mission, but the rest of the campaign worked fine.

[baltic_dragon]

We're testing the mission and it is a FUBAR. One tester had issues that were described while flying in MT, but in ST everything worked fine. Another had no issues in ST and MT both. Seems to be something in core DCS which - luckily - only affects this one mission. Maybe we will be able to find what causes it. Will keepo you posted. 

[baltic_dragon]

Good news, the issues with M02 should be fixed as of next patch!

[epolta]

On 5/17/2024 at 11:28 PM, baltic_dragon said:

Good news, the issues with M02 should be fixed as of next patch!

Well - I just tried again post patch - using VR so MT version of game - smoke takes off as soon as I finish refueling - my player voice tells him to refuel and he hits burner and heads back to the ship…never to be seen again

so the good news is the bug is fixed. The bad news is the game never progresses to the point where the bug would occur again.

[baltic_dragon]

Hey dude. I just pushed a hotfix for AAR part, because last patch which was supposed to fix things introduced a new DCS bug that broke others... this all was fixed internally before the patch, which introduced some new problems. The new issue should be adressed in the next DCS hotfix.