JaNk0 Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Shaggy, that picture is Byholma by Lidhult I THINK? :) Some real roadbase in Sweden on map http://tinyurl.com/a58rnv http://tinyurl.com/8zeelt http://tinyurl.com/8y89mo http://tinyurl.com/96cv59 http://tinyurl.com/99e8yv http://tinyurl.com/85nef7 http://tinyurl.com/7edy8t some pictures (sorry, it's all in Swedish) http://www.fortv.se/upload/Fortv_Rapport_2006.1.pdf Edited January 14, 2009 by JaNk0 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted January 14, 2009 Posted January 14, 2009 Actually, this is not true. The pilot doesn't touch anything. All the canards, the speed brakes and elevons movements are programmed into FCS and apply automatically upon landing. All the pilot HAS TO do is to step on the brakes. You can even do it while still in the air and the aircraft starts braking as soon as the nose wheel touches the ground. Uumph, that doesn't sound good, I mean, in case of emergency when you need to throttle up and your aircraft keeps dragging with canards, speed brakes ... :huh: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Bimbac Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Uumph, that doesn't sound good, I mean, in case of emergency when you need to throttle up and your aircraft keeps dragging with canards, speed brakes ... :huh: Don't worry. :) If you go to full power, standard parameters are restored on all control surfaces. :thumbup:
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 15, 2009 Author Posted January 15, 2009 Nice informations. But so easy to reproduce on Lockon, especially for the controls when braking. We're still thinking about it ! Concerning road bases, sure some pictures should be interesting ! :) This video illustrates nicely road base deployment.
JaNk0 Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) I thought about that Tigrou. Is it possible in some wayto combine two arguments? EDIT: Like when the [FRONT]wheels start to spin -> full brake and canards tilted forward Or just when you press [w] ? Edited January 15, 2009 by JaNk0 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Selector Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Acctually, the canards will only tip forwards (70 degrees as most) when the nose wheel touch the ground and the pilot applies wheel brakes quite furmly, also all controll surfaces will move to a optimal position for deacceleration and loose of lift, the thrust setting has no affect on FCS in this case. If the nose wheel lifts from the ground or the pilot releases the brakes, the FCS will automaticly reset to normal flight mode. BTW, Love your model, hope to see it fly in my computer soon.
Vekkinho Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 I'll post some of my LOFC road base pics in a minute! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 Sorry, got distracted by neighbour! Here's few! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Vekkinho Posted January 15, 2009 Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Check Polish Fisbeds landing on a road: Disable sound as it gets annoying with that loop! Scenes are from polish movie "Miedzy niebem a ziemia" Edit: Perhaps we should continue this Road strip thing in the other thread, I feel like derailing the Gripen! Edited January 15, 2009 by Vekkinho [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 16, 2009 Author Posted January 16, 2009 (edited) I thought about that Tigrou. Is it possible in some wayto combine two arguments? EDIT: Like when the [FRONT]wheels start to spin -> full brake and canards tilted forward Or just when you press [w] ?Let's call it the "braking sequence" : the canards tilt forward while inner elevons pitch up. I tried different ways : -> The first one, I assigned the braking sequence on drag chute release. It should be the best solution... but this sequence has only two positions : middle and full, without any transitions. So, it looks jerky. -> The second way was to index the sequence on pitch. When the pilot push the stick, the canards tilt down. But, at low speed, only 35% of the curve is used. So, it is tow much sensitive. -> Actually, I indexed the sequence on a second argument : the nose gear strut. When it compresses, (ie, when the pilot brakes), the canards tilt forward some degrees, and amplified with pulling the stick. And this, ONLY if flaps are down. To avoid have the canards moving like this when taxiing or flying. Actually, it works not so bad, even if it is not perfect. I will try with the spinning wheel too. It looks interesting ! :) So, yes, we can assign two or more arguments on the same animations ! Edited January 16, 2009 by VireVolte_tigrou
Vekkinho Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 Spinning of the nose wheel might work but remember canards would tilt down each time the wheel spins thus making takeoffs look a bit unnatural! I believe Wheelbrake argument would work best with canards animation, each time player applies some brake canards tilt down! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
OldCrow Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 is there a wheelbrake argument? [sIGPIC]http://www.virtualredarrows.com/member_sigs/vra2012_crow.png[/sIGPIC]
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 16, 2009 Author Posted January 16, 2009 I'm afraid no. Spinning of the nose wheel might work but remember canards would tilt down each time the wheel spins thus making takeoffs look a bit unnatural!The argument operates ONLY if flaps are down. So, take-off safe ! ;)
Cpt Stark Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 and if we take off with flaps ? ('cause weight with full weapons ^^)
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 16, 2009 Author Posted January 16, 2009 and if we take off with flaps ? ('cause weight with full weapons ^^)Tu m'embêtes !
Cpt Stark Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 Gripen doesn't have flaps :P but in LockOn .. yes he have ;) Tu m'embêtes ! Mais euh :P
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 16, 2009 Author Posted January 16, 2009 It would be better to alloy braking sequence with airbrakes out, but with MiG-29s, it is gear OR airbrakes out... Fromage ou dessert ?
guzmann Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 Great work! ;) Now we'd almost had to make one with Dutch markings, but sadly it seems that's not going to happen... http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3690557 http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3695363 http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Dutch-MvD-Report-Urges-F-35-over-Gripen-NG-F-16E-Fighters-05212/ Core i7 3770K - MSI GTX970 Gaming 4G - Gigabyte Z77X-D3H - 16GB ddr3/1600 - Saitek X45
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 16, 2009 Author Posted January 16, 2009 Netherlands is F-35 partner for a long time...:music_whistling:
JaNk0 Posted January 16, 2009 Posted January 16, 2009 Considering that you may want to slow down while up in the air pressing [w] (wheelbreaks) would be a better option in this case tigrou ;) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
VireVolte_tigrou Posted January 16, 2009 Author Posted January 16, 2009 I'm afraid there's not argument associated with...:ermm:
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