darkman222 Posted July 3, 2021 Posted July 3, 2021 Is there a way to reset the target designator box to the waypoint in CCRP if you have moved it? Because if it is offset for one waypoint, it will be offset for all the other waypoints too. And bringing it back to the initial waypoint still creates a different offset for all the other waypoints. I know that behavior is correct for the F16 but it can happen very quick that you'd accidentally touch the radar cursor mini stick on the trottle and mess up the position of the CCRP target designator. So can the designator be reset somehow? Video for illustration:
Machalot Posted July 3, 2021 Posted July 3, 2021 Isn't this what Cursor Zero does? It is the CZ button on the right side of the MFD that has your TGP format. "Subsonic is below Mach 1, supersonic is up to Mach 5. Above Mach 5 is hypersonic. And reentry from space, well, that's like Mach a lot."
darkman222 Posted July 3, 2021 Author Posted July 3, 2021 I never thought of it but yes, as long as you have a target pod installed you have the CZ cursor zero option. But in that case I dont have a target pod. Can this be accessed from somewhere else?
darkman222 Posted July 4, 2021 Author Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Nope. TMS down does nothing unfortunately. Remember I have no target pod loaded. Just a CCRP bombing run based on steerpoints preplanned without target pod. Edited July 4, 2021 by darkman222
Frederf Posted July 4, 2021 Posted July 4, 2021 CZ is accessible from TGP/FCR and I think the HSD formats. Not having the FCR GM/GMT/SEA MFD pages is a big hole in the avionics. There is a TMS down TGP reset which I think also CZ's. But you'd need to be in TGP SOI for that to be available.
darkman222 Posted July 4, 2021 Author Posted July 4, 2021 Who marked this as solution? Again, I have no target pod in the mission. Loading a target pod to get CZ is a workaround not a solution. The current FCR page shows no CZ. I think because its not the air to ground radar. So what you're saying @Frederf is that when we get the air to ground modes for the FCR we will also get the CZ button too?
WHOGX5 Posted July 4, 2021 Posted July 4, 2021 1 hour ago, darkman222 said: Who marked this as solution? Again, I have no target pod in the mission. Loading a target pod to get CZ is a workaround not a solution. The current FCR page shows no CZ. I think because its not the air to ground radar. So what you're saying @Frederf is that when we get the air to ground modes for the FCR we will also get the CZ button too? Normally you'd use the A-G FCR or the HSD page for CZ. Neither of these options are available in DCS though so the TGP is your only option. If you don't have a TGP loaded the only thing you can realistically do is to zoom in as far as you can on the HSD page, fly straight towards your selected steerpoint and manually slew the cursor until it's right on top of your steerpoint on the HSD page. It's not optimal, but I've done it and it works; at least to a satisfactory degree. If you don't have a TGP there are no other alternatives. And about TMS Down, it does not CZ. It only puts you in INR mode or drops the lock if you have a ground contact locked with the A-G radar. 2 -Col. Russ Everts opinion on surface-to-air missiles: "It makes you feel a little better if it's coming for one of your buddies. However, if it's coming for you, it doesn't make you feel too good, but it does rearrange your priorities." DCS Wishlist: MC-130E Combat Talon | F/A-18F Lot 26 | HH-60G Pave Hawk | E-2 Hawkeye/C-2 Greyhound | EA-6A/B Prowler | J-35F2/J Draken | RA-5C Vigilante
Frederf Posted July 4, 2021 Posted July 4, 2021 Sorry I meant with TGP SOI, pressing TMS down when not tracking performs a CZ. FCR in the ground modes and HSD should also have the CZ option. CZ is an airplane function which is always available.
Weidlich Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 It's a problem due to missing system integration I think. It's easy to reproduce: Start a mission with a stored waypoint and a TGP attached. Go to AG mode, make TGP SOI on a selected waypoint and slew the cursor around (apply an offset like you always do when you search for targets). Now don't reset the cursor, simply switch to AA oder NAV mode and land. The waypoint is indicated correct with the large diamond (and without any offset). Land and rearm but remove the TGP. Then depart and go to AG mode again. The target box still has the offset you previously applied without any way to reset the cursor. result: AG mode for CCRP attacks unusable. You need to land and load a TGP, then you can reset it. http://www.sysprofile.de/id17271
Frederf Posted July 5, 2021 Posted July 5, 2021 It's simpler than that. If you fly with say just MK84s and slew TD with HUD SOI in CCRP there's no way to CZ. But the other thing you mention that "waypoint is indicated correct" is normal. That's the difference between attack steering and navigation steering. Slewing TD doesn't move the diamond. It's normal for system deltas to not move the diamond (or NAV mode destination steering or steerpoint location on HSD). It's interesting to see if you have system deltas and switch AG-NAV back and forth you'll see the HSI navigation bearing pointer change between pointing to the target and the destination. But like you say, the fact that you need the TGP-AG format to access the CZ function is a problem. Without the physical TGP you can't access that page which means you can't access the CZ function.
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