OLED vs QLED

[Jafferson]

What's better for DCS, OLED or QLED?

OLED got deeper black and color, but QLED is brighter. What is more useful to spot ground and airborne targets? Which panel got the better looking picture?

Tell me what you prefer and why

[SkateZilla]

13 hours ago, Jafferson said:

What's better for DCS, OLED or QLED?

OLED got deeper black and color, but QLED is brighter. What is more useful to spot ground and airborne targets? Which panel got the better looking picture?

Tell me what you prefer and why

 

OLED:
BIO-CHEMICALLY BACKLIT
PERFECT BLACKS, Per Px Lighting,
Depending on Series (A1, B1, C1, Also Assuming you're not looking at 2020 CX Models),
A1 is 60Hz, where as C1 is 120Hz
A1 Also Does not have HDMI 2.1 with Variable Refresh Rate, G-Sync or FreeSync

A1 Uses Side Stand Feet, C1 uses Center Stand

The What they Don't tell You fact about OLED:
Panel is Bio-Chemically Backlit, The Brightness will fade over time, and if the Pixel Refresher is not run consistently to keep the age of the pixels close, you will start to see shadows, where some pixels are dimmer than others, commonly mistaken to be "Burn in" when in fact it's uneven aging of the sub pixels (R,G,B).

If Used primarily for Gaming, you will have eventual un-even sub pixels, even the pixel refresher sequence cannot counter video game overlays and HUD graphics.

LG nor Sony Cover Uneven Sub Pixel Aging in their Warranties, nor to stores that sell them.


QLED:
Q60, is Dual Edge Lit (Warm and Cool LEDs), Uses a Stripped Down Processor (Quantum 4K Lite), 60Hz Native, Does not Support HDMI 2.1 (VRR, Free Sync, G-Sync), Utilizes Real Game Enchancer etc.

Q70, is Dual Edge Lit (Warm and Cool LEDs), Uses Full Quantum 4K HDR 8x Processor, 120Hz Native, HDMI 2.1 VRR Support for Consoles, no Free/GSync, Utilizes Real Game Enhancer+

Q80, is Array Dimming, Has 12 Zones 4x3 for Backlight Arrays, Quantum HDR 12X Processor, 120Hz Native, HDMI 2.1 VRR Support for Consoles,no Free/GSync, Utilizes Real Game Enhancer+, Ultra Black 
Q85, is Array Dimming,  Has 48 Zones 8x6 For Back Light Arrays, Neo Quantum 24X , 120Hz Native, HDMI 2.1 VRR Support for Consoles, no Free/GSync, Utilizes Real Game Enhancer+, Ultra Diming/Blacks, Object Tracking Sound.

Now, I Have all these on display at my store, and I can tell you the 75' NEO QLED, looks just as Good as the 77" OLED in terms of black levels and color re-production.
WITHOUT the OLED Shadowing caused by Pixel Aging.

The What they don't tell you fact about QLED.
The Smaller Panels (55' and below) were dropped to 60Hz on the Q70s and Q80s, 120Hz is only on 65' and above.

[Jafferson]

7 hours ago, SkateZilla said:

If Used primarily for Gaming, you will have eventual un-even sub pixels, even the pixel refresher sequence cannot counter video game overlays and HUD graphics.

LG nor Sony Cover Uneven Sub Pixel Aging in their Warranties, nor to stores that sell them.

Wow thank you for this detailed reply on the topic. This is really important to know.

 

I was impressed by the LG OLED C1, colors and Black levels locking good, but I missing the Brightness and reflecions from the LCD Panels. My concern with the QLED is detail los in to bright spots, but I asum the 2021 modules doin well.

I have the decision between LG C1 and Samsung QN85A-QN95A.

I like the C1 got 4x HDMI 2.1 vs.

the Samsung got only 1x HDMI 2.1

cold be important in case a HDMI port breaks.

But all the TVs still missing Displayports, the only way to get the 120 frames is a adapter, club3d Displayport to HDMI 2.1 is the only adapter on the market providing 120hz at this moment. Even a 2080TI ain't got HDMI 2.1, maybe futere GPUs will have one. So need to count on a adapter, hope the adapter works smooth.

I aim for a 65inch QLED QN91A, it's the same like the 95 but without a cable box.

[Mars Exulte]

@SkateZilla

Very concise and informative! Thank you!

[SkateZilla]

18 hours ago, Jafferson said:

Wow thank you for this detailed reply on the topic. This is really important to know.

 

I was impressed by the LG OLED C1, colors and Black levels locking good, but I missing the Brightness and reflecions from the LCD Panels. My concern with the QLED is detail los in to bright spots, but I asum the 2021 modules doin well.

I have the decision between LG C1 and Samsung QN85A-QN95A.

I like the C1 got 4x HDMI 2.1 vs.

the Samsung got only 1x HDMI 2.1

cold be important in case a HDMI port breaks.

But all the TVs still missing Displayports, the only way to get the 120 frames is a adapter, club3d Displayport to HDMI 2.1 is the only adapter on the market providing 120hz at this moment. Even a 2080TI ain't got HDMI 2.1, maybe futere GPUs will have one. So need to count on a adapter, hope the adapter works smooth.

I aim for a 65inch QLED QN91A, it's the same like the 95 but without a cable box.

QN9x Series are all 4K, 32x HDR, but the one connect boxes are prone to failing over time, and aren't cheap to replace, nor are the One connect cables.

Difference in the QN95A and QN91/90A is the One Connect box, w/ 1 more USB Port and 2 more speakers on the QN95A.

[Pipe]

 

On 7/26/2021 at 7:56 PM, SkateZilla said:

 

OLED:
BIO-CHEMICALLY BACKLIT
PERFECT BLACKS, Per Px Lighting,
Depending on Series (A1, B1, C1, Also Assuming you're not looking at 2020 CX Models),
A1 is 60Hz, where as C1 is 120Hz
A1 Also Does not have HDMI 2.1 with Variable Refresh Rate, G-Sync or FreeSync

A1 Uses Side Stand Feet, C1 uses Center Stand

The What they Don't tell You fact about OLED:
Panel is Bio-Chemically Backlit, The Brightness will fade over time, and if the Pixel Refresher is not run consistently to keep the age of the pixels close, you will start to see shadows, where some pixels are dimmer than others, commonly mistaken to be "Burn in" when in fact it's uneven aging of the sub pixels (R,G,B).

If Used primarily for Gaming, you will have eventual un-even sub pixels, even the pixel refresher sequence cannot counter video game overlays and HUD graphics.

LG nor Sony Cover Uneven Sub Pixel Aging in their Warranties, nor to stores that sell them.


QLED:
Q60, is Dual Edge Lit (Warm and Cool LEDs), Uses a Stripped Down Processor (Quantum 4K Lite), 60Hz Native, Does not Support HDMI 2.1 (VRR, Free Sync, G-Sync), Utilizes Real Game Enchancer etc.

Q70, is Dual Edge Lit (Warm and Cool LEDs), Uses Full Quantum 4K HDR 8x Processor, 120Hz Native, HDMI 2.1 VRR Support for Consoles, no Free/GSync, Utilizes Real Game Enhancer+

Q80, is Array Dimming, Has 12 Zones 4x3 for Backlight Arrays, Quantum HDR 12X Processor, 120Hz Native, HDMI 2.1 VRR Support for Consoles,no Free/GSync, Utilizes Real Game Enhancer+, Ultra Black 
Q85, is Array Dimming,  Has 48 Zones 8x6 For Back Light Arrays, Neo Quantum 24X , 120Hz Native, HDMI 2.1 VRR Support for Consoles, no Free/GSync, Utilizes Real Game Enhancer+, Ultra Diming/Blacks, Object Tracking Sound.

Now, I Have all these on display at my store, and I can tell you the 75' NEO QLED, looks just as Good as the 77" OLED in terms of black levels and color re-production.
WITHOUT the OLED Shadowing caused by Pixel Aging.

The What they don't tell you fact about QLED.
The Smaller Panels (55' and below) were dropped to 60Hz on the Q70s and Q80s, 120Hz is only on 65' and 

Is oled tech any better at protecting against pixel aging now?
looking at this monitor “AORUS FO48U 48in 4K UHD OLED Gaming Monitor”

or perhaps this one: AORUS FV43U 43in UHD 4K 144Hz “quantum dot”

 

thanks

Edited December 19, 2022 by Pipe
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[Burt]

I shouldnt be reading this as I’m waiting for my Sony A80k 77” to be delivered. I wouldn’t be playing games on it. But good info here thanks.

Edited December 20, 2022 by Burt

[SkateZilla]

the OLED tech at it's core hasnt changed,

what they did do, is create the OLED pixels with overhead, so as long as the screens pixel refresher/maintenance routine is run to keep the individual RGB pixels at the same organic age, there wont be any un-even aging, and the organic sample has a higher nits output at max, but is capped by display firmware, so even as the organic sample ages, it will not begin to actually show any brightness decreases for likely years, 

I'd recommend not letting screensavers w/ colors run, instead soft-power off or black screen it.
Also Disable Large Stationary HUDs in game if you can. (health bars, ammo, etc etc) or any App Overlays that dont move.

Edited December 21, 2022 by SkateZilla