Photon Posted August 21, 2021 Share Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) After fighting with Prince, and doing 2 Aim9 hits, and 2 gun hits, and then me calling Joker, Prince just does a strange maneuver where he stays in full burner, at stall speed (around 100kts) and keeps this position until he pancakes into the ocean. After the Joker call, Prince will say he's going to climb, and maintain 250 kts or so, but he still remains an enemy fighter (red aircraft on SA), not sure if this is intentional. Edit: Tried again. This time I got him with guns until he called out Joker himself. Again he claims he will climb, but again he did the same maneuver where he slowly goes into a stall-burner config, and descends slowly. Not sure how to get past this mission? edit2: seems like it finally worked, somehow. Prince again did his "falling leaf while afterburning" thing, but at 3,000 feet he suddenly leveled off, gained speed, and then finally changed back into a blue aircraft 15,000 feet higher. Not sure what causes this strange behavior Edited August 21, 2021 by Photon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 Maybe there still is a problem with the AI flight model - the same that caused the F-18s to stall at takeoff. Prince will continue as Red Force, as there was no way to change him again, but then magic happens and he is blue again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szerated Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Had this happen several times, in different ways. The transition from him going from red to blue seems to be buggy, which makes sense to me. I'm sure the game doesn't expect this kind of thing and has limitations in the mission creator. I suggest you have instructions after BFM on screen that tells you to just fly to the next waypoint and then prince will be waiting for you to rejoin. That would probably be clear to the player. He can respawn as blue in front of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razor18 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Not flight model related, rather AI related. You need to always climb after disengaging the mock fight, otherwise he will Split-S into the ocean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted September 2, 2021 Author Share Posted September 2, 2021 On 8/31/2021 at 3:21 PM, Razor18 said: Not flight model related, rather AI related. You need to always climb after disengaging the mock fight, otherwise he will Split-S into the ocean. I did do that. I watched him on F2 while I was flying high. It was like he was trying to point his aircraft where he wanted to go, but bleeding off all his airspeed doing it. He didn't just split-s into the sea, he was stalling for many minutes into the sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baltic_dragon Posted September 3, 2021 Share Posted September 3, 2021 the stalling issue should be fixed, it was a general problem with the F-18 flight model for quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photon Posted September 3, 2021 Author Share Posted September 3, 2021 Hopefully they will improve it some more in future patches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenson Posted September 7, 2021 Share Posted September 7, 2021 I encountered exactly the same issue, after the dogfighter with Prince (joker declared), Prince struggled to gain speed, with afterburner on but only about 100 kts and at low altitude (below 5k ft). Although after a long haul, he managed to speed up and climbed to 20k ft, but my fuel wasn't enough to complete the mission. What I worked around this issue was when I did dogfight with Prince, I remained at about 20k ft, so when I declared joker, he was already in high altitude and easily gained speed and this expedited the process so I could enter Iran with enough fuel. PC Specs: Intel i7 9700, Nvidia RTX 2080S, Corsair 64G DDR4, MSI B360M Mortar Titanium, Intel 760P M.2 256GB SSD + Samsung 1TB SSD, Corsair RM650x Flight Gears: Logitech X56 HOTAS & Flight Rudder Pedals, HP Reverb G2 Modules: F-14A/B, F-15C, F-16C, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C I/II, Supercarrier, Nevada, Persian Gulf, Syria Location: Shanghai, CHINA Project: Operation Hormuz [F/A-18C Multiplayer Campaign] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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