Entering coordinates for Mariana Islands

[Amarok_73]

Hello, I'd like to ask if it is me doing something wrong, or it is impossible to enter into the navigatioin computer coordinates higher (longer) than 99 degrees?

If so, is there any other reliable method for it independent of the points (pre)entered in the mission editor?

 

[Rudel_chw]

50 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said:

I'd like to ask if it is me doing something wrong, or it is impossible to enter into the navigatioin computer coordinates higher (longer) than 99 degrees?

It’s been a long while since I last flew the viggen, but I remember that you just omitted the leading "1" and the computer interpreted correctly the longitude.

[Amarok_73]

Ok, I'll give it a try. Thanks for hint.

[Machalot]

10 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

It’s been a long while since I last flew the viggen, but I remember that you just omitted the leading "1" and the computer interpreted correctly the longitude.

This is correct. The software model cheats in that it knows the possible ranges of longitude for each DCS map, so it knows that latitudes over 100 will be two digits, and on some maps it knows it can only be west. 

Edited October 27, 2021 by Machalot

[Rudel_chw]

33 minutes ago, Machalot said:

The software model cheats ..

 

It's understandable, as the Viggen was never exported ... I'm sure that if a country like, say, Taiwan, had purchased the Viggen, then Saab would surely have modified their Computer software on a very similar way as Heatblur's.

[Amarok_73]

Yep, it works as You guys described.
Another questions:
1. Why sometimes after start, when I'll enable radar it returns nothing, regardless of the elevation I set with rotary? Seems like i enable it in wrong sequence...?
2. Is there any visual indicator showing the current radar scan elevation? According to the Chuck's manual there should be something on the top of the radar display, but I can't see anything there. Here's screenshot from the Chuck's manual where it is shown:

3. Sorry to ask this one, but I have problem to find the answer on it in the documentation : near the elevation rotary limits minimal and maxima, the radar sweep starts to be quicker and narrower and when rotary is at the top value it stops sweeping at all. Are these some special radar modes?

[Rudel_chw]

7 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said:

2. Is there any visual indicator showing the current radar scan elevation? According to the Chuck's manual there should be something on the top of the radar display, but I can't see anything there. Here's screenshot from the Chuck's manual where it is shown:

The illustration you show refers to the Air-Air mode of the Radar, on the normal Air-Ground mode the elevation marks dont appear. Back when I flew the Viggen I never bothered to change radar elevation, as my attack profile was always under 500 feet altitude and I used the Viggen only in the attack role .. this is not an interceptor aircraft and its radar is not good for air-air.

[Amarok_73]

@Rudel_chwThank You for response. Yes, I already noticed that this plane is enough as opponent for the Mig-21 and other planes from this era, so I am focused now on the ground/sea capabilities. Just about now I've finally successfully attacked big-ass tanker with RBS-15F missiles (weeee!), sadly such attack seems to be rather not possible against armed fleet, as all my missiles so far was downed by escort ships.

 

[Machalot]

21 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said:

sadly such attack seems to be rather not possible against armed fleet, as all my missiles so far was downed by escort ships

You need to bring an overwhelming number of Viggens so some of the missiles get through.

[Amarok_73]

1 minute ago, Machalot said:

You need to bring an overwhelming number of Viggens so some of the missiles get through.

This is also my observation so far

[Rudel_chw]

20 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said:

sadly such attack seems to be rather not possible against armed fleet, as all my missiles so far was downed by escort ships.

 

Are you using a single plane? .. get some AI wingmans for your flight and add a second strike group to attack at more or less the same time but from a different direction. Also, once you detect the enemy fleet, turn off the radar and descend to 100-200 meters as you get closer. Reactivate the radar when in range and then launch the missiles.

[Amarok_73]

And what about the radar not returning any picture?

On the screenshot I have highlighted out of the window and on the kneepad that I am right next to the Cyprus coast, but radar returns nothing...
 

[Rudel_chw]

2 minutes ago, Amarok_73 said:

And what about the radar not returning any picture?

 

Maybe its a bug? .. you should do a proper bug report, with a track file of the flight and a copy of your dcs.log, so that the developer has some concrete starting point to begin investigate the issue.

[Amarok_73]

2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

Maybe its a bug? .. you should do a proper bug report, with a track file of the flight and a copy of your dcs.log, so that the developer has some concrete starting point to begin investigate the issue.

That's what I supposed besides of that I am doing something not according to the procedures. Thank You for confirmation, and help at all!

EDIT: I found the reason. It was just the rotary assigned to MKR/Radar Gain function set to minimal value. Totally forgot about this one.

[renhanxue]

8 hours ago, Amarok_73 said:

@Rudel_chwThank You for response. Yes, I already noticed that this plane is enough as opponent for the Mig-21 and other planes from this era, so I am focused now on the ground/sea capabilities. Just about now I've finally successfully attacked big-ass tanker with RBS-15F missiles (weeee!), sadly such attack seems to be rather not possible against armed fleet, as all my missiles so far was downed by escort ships.

 

The Swedish air force strike ops with the Viggen only very rarely involved fewer than four aircraft at a time. One squadron tactically in the air was eight aircraft, and the half-squadron ("fyrgrupp" or just "grupp") was really the smallest common tactical unit. The recon aircraft operated solo or in pairs, and the fighters usually at least in pairs, but the strike aircraft almost always in groups of four or larger formations. For anti-ship strikes against multiple surface combatants the doctrine manuals called for employing at least two squadrons at a time, but preferably more - there were strike exercises where six squadrons (48 aircraft) formed up radio silent and did a coordinated strike against a single target, to give an idea of the kind of strike packages they were working with.

Edited October 28, 2021 by renhanxue

[Amarok_73]

2 hours ago, renhanxue said:

six squadrons (48 aircraft) formed up radio silent

Impressive. i can imagine such scenario with planes like Tornado or others that are capable to set and show the planned TOT (Time Over Target), but if the HB implementation of Viggen is accurate, having in minds what I've learnt so far about this machine, to arrange and execute such a mission had to be hell of work. And money required to train these pilots.
I hope that I'll master one day this plane enough to say I am able to participate in such mission, but so far I am going back to Chuck's documentation and YT movies. As I've just bought this plane and there's a lot of training in front of me.

[LazyBoot]

2 hours ago, Amarok_73 said:

i can imagine such scenario with planes like Tornado or others that are capable to set and show the planned TOT (Time Over Target), but if the HB implementation of Viggen is accurate

The DCS Viggen does have TOT functions, and they work quite well (in my limited testing)

[Amarok_73]

On 10/28/2021 at 11:29 AM, LazyBoot said:

The DCS Viggen does have TOT functions, and they work quite well (in my limited testing)

Yep, indeed it has. Writing that statement I was at the very beginning of Chuck's manual. Now I am after it, and I can even sometimes destroy OHPs that provides the cover for an aircraft carrier. Very rewarding feeling.

The only drawback is, that I fly alone, as there seems not to be many of fans of this plane and I have no one to learn from nuances of effective usage of it. However so far I mastered to shoot myself with RBS15.

 

Edited November 4, 2021 by Amarok_73

[QuiGon]

19 hours ago, Amarok_73 said:

Yep, indeed it has. Writing that statement I was at the very beginning of Chuck's manual. Now I am after it, and I can even sometimes destroy OHPs that provides the cover for an aircraft carrier. Very rewarding feeling.

The only drawback is, that I fly alone, as there seems not to be many of fans of this plane and I have no one to learn from nuances of effective usage of it. However so far I mastered to shoot myself with RBS15.

There's a bug with the RB-4E, which makes the missile impossible to get shot down by the sips defenses. So maybe try the RB-4E if you want such a rewarding feeling

Edited November 5, 2021 by QuiGon

[Amarok_73]

5 hours ago, QuiGon said:

There's a bug with the RB-4E, which makes the impossible to get shot down by the sips defenses. So maybe try the RB-4E if you want a rewarding feeling

Thanks for this tip, but better feeling from "cheating the cheater" is not the reward I am looking for