Countermeasures, in auto mode

[AngryViper.101]

Hi

I have recently started using countermeasures in auto mode.

I notice that more chaff's are dispensed when in auto mode.

Why is this, since i have program 1 setup to dispense both 5 chaffs and 5 flares?

 

thank you

[_SteelFalcon_]

because as soon as you gave consent, the AUTO mode dispenses whenever it feels necessary, which is rather wasteful.

[Kilo]

3 hours ago, warford said:

Why is this, since i have program 1 setup to dispense both 5 chaffs and 5 flares?

The SEMI and AUTO modes choose whichever program they feel it's most appropriate for whatever is trying to knock you out of the sky.

[Bunny Clark]

SEMI and AUTO do not use the manual programs, they have their own independent programs that you cannot edit from the CMDS page - but you can edit them in the .lua file if you want. 

 

ASIDE: if you've edited the CMDS .lua file in the past, before the addition of the SEMI and AUTO dispenser modes, you should update your .lua file. The automatically selected programs got updated around the same time to be significantly less wasteful. 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Bunny Clark

[KevyKevTPA]

Do the auto countermeasures defend against heat seekers?  And if so, how do they know they're there.  I usually don't until I blow up in midair for no reason.

[Bunny Clark]

23 minutes ago, KevyKevTPA said:

Do the auto countermeasures defend against heat seekers? 

Nope, it has no way of detecting an incoming IR missile. 

I recommend keeping your manual program or the Slap Switch set to dispense flares. 

[KevyKevTPA]

9 hours ago, Bunny Clark said:

I recommend keeping your manual program or the Slap Switch set to dispense flares. 

I do.  In fact, I have a customized .lua for programs 1, 2, and 5 that in theory anyway should be superior to the default, I just don't see those damn inbound IR missiles, and I'm not sure what I can do to fix that.  Only issue with that custom file is it gets replaced with the default every time it updates.

[Lace]

13 minutes ago, KevyKevTPA said:

I just don't see those damn inbound IR missiles, and I'm not sure what I can do to fix that.

 

Stay out of their threat zone.  If it is IR SAMs then fly higher (most wont reach more than 15,000 ft), or lower and faster (to reduce their OODA window).  If it is AAMs then disengage until you have a tactical advantage.

If you are attacking a target with a known IR SAM defence and can't perform a high or medium altitude delivery, then plan a pop up attack and a pre-emptive CMS program which dispenses throughout the pop-up phase, for example,

FL BQ 2, BI 0.5, SQ 10, SI 3, - two flares, released close together, 10 times, at three second intervals, giving you 30sec to perform your attack run and consuming 20 flares total, before bravely running away at low level.  

Also, stay out of afterburner.

[_SteelFalcon_]

27 minutes ago, KevyKevTPA said:

I do.  In fact, I have a customized .lua for programs 1, 2, and 5 that in theory anyway should be superior to the default, I just don't see those damn inbound IR missiles, and I'm not sure what I can do to fix that.  Only issue with that custom file is it gets replaced with the default every time it updates.

stay above 12k ft whenever possible  you can only flare off what you see coming, and when flying solo there is no way to see it all

[KevyKevTPA]

Thanks, guys, but it's the planes I don't even know are there who are my problem.  Guess I just have to keep my head on a faster swivel.  

[Lace]

42 minutes ago, KevyKevTPA said:

Thanks, guys, but it's the planes I don't even know are there who are my problem.  Guess I just have to keep my head on a faster swivel.  

It's difficult in a furball, but then you need to ask - how did I allow myself to get in this situation in the first place?

[SickSidewinder9]

Program 5 is the slap switch, correct?  What is 6?

[KevyKevTPA]

Just now, SickSidewinder9 said:

Program 5 is the slap switch, correct?  What is 6?

P5 is what happens if you hit the fwd(?, the one for "flares") button on the dispenser, which for me is a totally different button because I don't have the 3-way switch.  If that's not right, it's the opposite.  Aft will get you P1, again unless I have it backwards.  I have different custom setups for both, but every time they update it, they change the file so I have to remember to copy and paste it back.

P6 is the slap switch I think.  I think the default dumps like half your stores (or more), then again it is a switch of desperation.  

3 hours ago, Lace said:

It's difficult in a furball, but then you need to ask - how did I allow myself to get in this situation in the first place?

Because I'm a noob with total "classroom" time (meaning reading manuals and watching YouTube vids) of about 40 hours, and in the bird time about the same.  Real Hornet pilots have 300 classroom hours and 300 simulator hours before they're even allowed to look at a real Hornet, and that's AFTER flight school and pinning on their wings!  So, basically, I suck lol...

[Frederf]

CMS forward to run 1-4 (depending on knob position), 5 is the dispense button on the left cockpit wall, 6 is CMS left. The semi/auto/jammer stuff is CMS aft for consent yes and CMS right for consent no.