RevampedGrunt Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Vampyre said: Probably, they are not good with either directions, English or they are just lazy. They could be trolling or it could be a combination of all of the aforementioned causes. It would be nice to be able to clean out all of the irrelevant posts and maybe move them off to a random Phantom livery thread. I chalk it up to boomers being boomers and coping over the naval phantom not releasing first. Otherwise, it's probably people who will perform sacrilege and put a navy livery on the E. Current Modules: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-15E, F-4E, AV-8B, Mirage 2KC, Mirage F-1, Mig-21, AJS-37, A-10C II, F-5E, AH-64D, UH-1H, Ka-50 BS2/BS3, Mi-8MTV2, Mi-24P, SA342, Spitfire, P-47D, BF-109K, Mosquito Tech Pack: WWII Assets Terrain: Syria, Sinai, NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega417 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Why are you guys so salty about Navy liveries. We aren't getting a navy variant for a while and people still want to fly in their preferred Phantom. To be honest ill probably end up downloading far more Navy/USMC liveries and using those far more often. That being said the Luftwaffe Phantoms still had the superior liveries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevampedGrunt Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Omega417 said: Why are you guys so salty about Navy liveries. We aren't getting a navy variant for a while and people still want to fly in their preferred Phantom. To be honest ill probably end up downloading far more Navy/USMC liveries and using those far more often. That being said the Luftwaffe Phantoms still had the superior liveries. They aren't supposed to be on this thread, it's supposed to be specifically for the E model. If someone wanted to, why not make a thread for livery designs that are fictional or perhaps don't go on the model we are getting first? 5 Current Modules: F-14A/B, F/A-18C, F-16C, F-15E, F-4E, AV-8B, Mirage 2KC, Mirage F-1, Mig-21, AJS-37, A-10C II, F-5E, AH-64D, UH-1H, Ka-50 BS2/BS3, Mi-8MTV2, Mi-24P, SA342, Spitfire, P-47D, BF-109K, Mosquito Tech Pack: WWII Assets Terrain: Syria, Sinai, NTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega417 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Who cares? Just ignore them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceCriminal86 Posted March 28, 2023 Author Share Posted March 28, 2023 Considering I initiated the thread (with blessing and to have it pinned) to be the core F-4E discussion on liveries, it is a relevant point that the thread is not for B, C, D, J, N, S, K etc. jets. Up front it was said export USAF F-4E and the export Es, to include the F. Of course some G photos have been posted or asked about but the G isn't being done on the core side, plus they share the same schemes as Es but with different squadron/wing markings (and of course the external antenna differences). The purpose of *this thread* was to collect reference photos, squadrons, dates, photos of pilots/helmets, serial numbers, and names to both build core liveries to include with the module (which we continue to do), but also for those that want to do skins once the template is released. While we've already got some stuff identified for core/release skins, it's going to be that much harder now to go back through and build some ideas for other squadrons that could be done to match the earlier and later block Es, as well as good export candidates. Please do create an "Every other Phantom that's not an E/F Livery and skin idea" thread, it's a good ways off but maybe that will help keep this one focused on what it was originally focused on. 7 1 Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™ VF-11 and VF-31 1988 [WIP] VF-201 & VF-202 [WIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega417 Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Then request another "Official Livery" thread to be created. No one who is just coming into the forums is going to search through 7 pages of threads (many repeating topics), when they can just post their favorite Phantoms and liveries here on the first page. Or just continue to ignore the USN/USAF/RAF/JASDF/other non E phantoms that show up here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach3DS Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Actually they will. That's the point of thread topics. And people who use forums know how they work. It's not terribly uncommon to keep things "on topic". No offense intended here, but anything not related to F-4E is off topic. It's actually a 100% reasonable request to ask people keep a thread topic, on topic. It's about the least controversial request that could possibly be made in a forum. 12 MACH 3 DESIGN STUDIO Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega417 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) It happens every 2 pages. Someone posts a cool F4 forgetting or ignoring this is for F4Es and someone posts "Thats not an E whats it doing here". Just ignore it. I swear I am not trying to be rude, but if you look through the 7 pages there are quite a few repeat topics for; Weapons loadouts, RIO control, F4G, and a few others. Not everyone is going to look though that many pages to see if someone has already asked a question in a forum. And this is the "Pinned Official" post, the people who only mildly care about forums are not going to look much past this post and the other pinned post. Edited March 29, 2023 by Omega417 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach3DS Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) Yeah I don't think most people are trying to be rude. I'm also not meaning to sound either. It would go a long way to keep things straight for us though. If people could try to keep it on topic. Because we're actually behind the scenes looking at everything, believe it or not. And it makes it 100x easier when we're not having to sift through pages of not applicable images or info when researching and doing liveries. And finding details. HB listens and there's a lot that you don't see or hear about but stuff we bring up directly that effects good changes and inputs into the product. So, while it might seem stupid at a glance it's actually helpful and is indirectly making things better. But yeah....I have no control over what people do...so I do just ignore it. But if you're interested in helping us find and discern details a little better, keeping it a central "E" repository is a nice to have. Edited March 29, 2023 by Mach3DS 3 MACH 3 DESIGN STUDIO Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega417 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I mean it says MARINES or NAVY on the side thats a dead give away that its not an E model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bananabrai Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 On 3/28/2023 at 1:20 AM, Omega417 said: That being said the Luftwaffe Phantoms still had the superior liveries. Did I hear Wolkenmaus? 8 hours ago, Mach3DS said: It's actually a 100% reasonable request to ask people keep a thread topic, on topic. True, but it's also always a question of how something is asked. Not by you in this case, but should possible to asked non salty. Besides, as an example, the MiG-21bis does also came with non bis liveries. HB also did a Grumman style factory livery for the Tomcat (and a Christmas livery) , which is not what we have, we have a FOC Navy Tomcat. Where to draw the line? I can ask HB kindly if they might want to do a Navy skin for the E, officially, why not? Alias in Discord: Mailman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omega417 Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Bananabrai said: Did I hear Wolkenmaus? I am here for the orange. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 The ShamWow! guy's proverb about German stuff holds true. 3 Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LanceCriminal86 Posted March 31, 2023 Author Share Posted March 31, 2023 @VFlipmay have gotten a bit carried away with Luftwaffle Phantoms... Heatblur Rivet Counting Squad™ VF-11 and VF-31 1988 [WIP] VF-201 & VF-202 [WIP] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vampyre Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 5 hours ago, LanceCriminal86 said: @VFlipmay have gotten a bit carried away with Luftwaffle Phantoms... Does that mean Norm 81A and B? 1 Truly superior pilots are those that use their superior judgment to avoid those situations where they might have to use their superior skills. If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! "If at first you don't succeed, Carrier Landings are not for you!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarloVecchi Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 Am 31.3.2023 um 23:54 schrieb Vampyre: Does that mean Norm 81A and B? Best looking camos of the F-4F for me. Saw em every day during my military duty @ Airbase Hopsten. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_der Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 11:54 PM, Vampyre said: Does that mean Norm 81A and B? Yes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
352ndOscar Posted April 14, 2023 Share Posted April 14, 2023 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatoulis Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 An impressive livery comes from the Hellenic Force's 348 Tactical Reconnaissance Squadron "EYES". On the sides it reads "The End of the Film" because the Squadron was suspended in 2017. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatoulis Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 And these two as well!!! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
352ndOscar Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguara5 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) The F-4E in Aegean Blue is really brutal. IMO a must have official skin Edited April 23, 2023 by jaguara5 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gatoulis Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 HAF 337 SQ... Lovely livery! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozon Posted April 24, 2023 Share Posted April 24, 2023 5 hours ago, Gatoulis said: HAF 337 SQ... Lovely livery! This one’s pretty cool. The wing diagonal is even painted on the drop tanks, so now they have a right & left distinct tanks and if they switch them it will ruin the pretty lines “Mosquitoes fly, but flies don’t Mosquito” :pilotfly: - Geoffrey de Havilland. ... well, he could have said it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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