Is the Hind too Twitty on take offs and landings .?

[Sobakopes]

8 часов назад, agamemnon_b5 сказал:

No it wouldn’t.  Again, we have it already in the Hind.  Regardless of your pedal’s dead zone, the autopilot won’t do anything until movement in the pedals is detected.  Dead zone is irrelevant.

I agree yaw ap sometimes goes crazy. 

What I meant to say is that you need to overcome a dead zone and induce significant yaw pedal input that you don't even need simply to turn off autopilot. In a real chopper you can do this fluently with s micro switch. 

There is a hardware difference between gamers and pilots. 

[Lurker]

On 3/29/2022 at 3:17 PM, agamemnon_b5 said:

The issue is the AP goes haywire when you let go of the pedals, regardless of how slowly you do it.

 

Yes you are absolutely correct. Sometimes it registers the turn correctly, sometimes it enables the YAW AP nowhere near where you want it. It's a real mess and it's ridiculous that not since the release of the HIND has has anyone looked at this issue seriously. 

To me this is a bigger issue than the "trim issues" of the Apache (which is just user error for the most part) and no one (on the english forums at least) has even acknowledged that this is an issue. 

*edit*

Maybe this was fixed and not communicated? It's been a while since I've flown the Hind and this is the main reason why it's in the hangar. Has the Hind recieved the wonderful Trimming options that the Apache has? For example I would like to be able to fly with the YAW AP on AND trim the pedals the same way that it is possible in the Apache. (I have springless pedals)

Edited March 31, 2022 by Lurker

[AeriaGloria]

8 hours ago, Lurker said:

Yes you are absolutely correct. Sometimes it registers the turn correctly, sometimes it enables the YAW AP nowhere near where you want it. It's a real mess and it's ridiculous that not since the release of the HIND has has anyone looked at this issue seriously. 

To me this is a bigger issue than the "trim issues" of the Apache (which is just user error for the most part) and no one (on the english forums at least) has even acknowledged that this is an issue. 

*edit*

Maybe this was fixed and not communicated? It's been a while since I've flown the Hind and this is the main reason why it's in the hangar. Has the Hind recieved the wonderful Trimming options that the Apache has? For example I would like to be able to fly with the YAW AP on AND trim the pedals the same way that it is possible in the Apache. (I have springless pedals)

 

I don’t use pedal trim, but it’s always appeared to me that you have always been able to trim the pedals in the Mi-24. It’s always been an option in special options. And we’ve always had trim reset. I have to use the trim reset all the time to get rid of the random trimming that the Yaw AP does when the heading hold reaches its limits 

[Lurker]

10 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

I don’t use pedal trim, but it’s always appeared to me that you have always been able to trim the pedals in the Mi-24. It’s always been an option in special options. And we’ve always had trim reset. I have to use the trim reset all the time to get rid of the random trimming that the Yaw AP does when the heading hold reaches its limits 

Not what Im asking at all. Yes pedals could be trimmed, but this did not work with springless pedals. (And frankly worked terribly with spring pedals) What I'm asking is whether there is an option like in the Apache, where you can set the option to set pedal trim to where your pedals are currently, so spring-less friendly?

This could get around the YAW AP Problem in that whenever you move your pedals, then trim, the YAW AP would automatically be set to that new heading, and would adjust the torque based on this new heading. 

I guess will have to try and see for myself when I get the time, the last time I tried it YAW AP ON did not work at all with Springless pedals. 

Edited April 1, 2022 by Lurker

[AeriaGloria]

5 minutes ago, Lurker said:

Not what Im asking at all. Yes pedals could be trimmed, but this did not work with springless pedals. (And frankly worked terribly with spring pedals) What I'm asking is whether there is an option like in the Apache, where you can set the option to set pedal trim to where your pedals are currently. 

Oh I see, is that set with the default/springless with FFB/return to center option that also applies to cyclic trim? 

[Lurker]

1 minute ago, AeriaGloria said:

Oh I see, is that set with the default/springless with FFB/return to center option that also applies to cyclic trim? 

Yes that should be it, unfortunately "Springless with FFB" pedals don't really exist, no not sure how that would work as a setting. The settings in the Apache make much more sense. (And seem to work)

Edited April 1, 2022 by Lurker

[AeriaGloria]

8 hours ago, Lurker said:

Yes that should be it, unfortunately "Springless with FFB" pedals don't really exist, no not sure how that would work as a setting. The settings in the Apache make much more sense. (And seem to work)

 

I believe all the setting does is as you say, the current pedal position is used as your trimmed position when pressing the trim button, so might be the option you desire for pedals

I think the intent behind it being named is just a catch all for those with either FFB sticks, or people that removed the spring from their stick or pedals 

Edited April 1, 2022 by AeriaGloria

[FongFic]

Hi, Should I using trim during vertical landing?

[badger7966]

Trim....trim....trim....and trim again !!!

[AeriaGloria]

On 4/10/2024 at 12:49 PM, FongFic said:

Hi, Should I using trim during vertical landing?

Yes, it sets attitude hold and tells AP what center cyclic deflection should be. Hover attitude is about 2-4 degrees up usually outside of heavy wind. Press trim, get into that attitude or Atleast stable, release trim. Or you can even switch the first two steps by getting into that attitude, then rapidly pressing and releasing trim 

[FongFic]

Yeah, finally, I can land it smoothly, anyway, i need to spend more time to practice. Thanks a lot for help.

[KoN]

Took her out on the new cold war server and it's a lot better , still testing Petro , got good locks to start off with , then returned to finish of target wouldn't lock a live target, very odd , other targets destroyed, maybe server side . 

[Gunnar81]

On 6/7/2024 at 5:11 PM, KoN said:

Took her out on the new cold war server and it's a lot better , still testing Petro , got good locks to start off with , then returned to finish of target wouldn't lock a live target, very odd , other targets destroyed, maybe server side . 

This is probably due to leaving the observation scope open when you break off the target and maneuver around, it screws up the gyro and it can take up to 3 mins (I might be wrong here) for the scope to re orientate itself. It is supposed to be a simulation of the real, delicate scope components.

 

Best practice is to make your run in on target, launch your Atakas and before you break off, order Petrovich to stop observing. Then perform your left or right break off target so as not to upset the obs scope.

[admiki]

17 hours ago, Gunnar81 said:

it screws up the gyro and it can take up to 3 mins (I might be wrong here) for the scope to re orientate itself.

It does not re-orientate itself. You need to shut it down, wait 3 minutes and then activate it again. Total of 6 minutes. 

[FongFic]

Hi, should i turn on Pedal Trimmer or let it off??

[AeriaGloria]

2 hours ago, FongFic said:

Hi, should i turn on Pedal Trimmer or let it off??

Depends if you want to trim pedals. It’s personal preference. Yaw autopilot is a different story

[FongFic]

8 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

Depends if you want to trim pedals. It’s personal preference. Yaw autopilot is a different story

I prefer to not use it but without trimmer it quite difficult to keep chopper flying straight during landing. 
So I have turned it on, but during landing, it seem unstable to keep hover 

[AeriaGloria]

2 hours ago, FongFic said:

I prefer to not use it but without trimmer it quite difficult to keep chopper flying straight during landing. 
So I have turned it on, but during landing, it seem unstable to keep hover 

Do you mean pedal trim or yaw autopilot 

[FongFic]

5 hours ago, AeriaGloria said:

Do you mean pedal trim or yaw autopilot 

Pedal trim, i not yet try yaw autopilot

 

[AeriaGloria]

2 hours ago, FongFic said:

Pedal trim, i not yet try yaw autopilot

 

I never had issues keeping it straight without pedal trim, but also depends on your pedals. Do what works best for you 

[MAXsenna]

Pedal trim, i not yet try yaw autopilot
 

Do you have pedals? I have a damper on mine so they don't center, and hence I don't trim them.

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[FongFic]

14 hours ago, MAXsenna said:

Do you have pedals? I have a damper on mine so they don't center, and hence I don't trim them.

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I have pedal, and also have damper

[MAXsenna]

I have pedal, and also have damper

Then I would turn pedal trim off in the special settings, unless you have bound a switch the microswitch keybind. Wish there was a setting we could mimic the micro switch with the brake pedals.

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