GGTharos Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 You don't necessarily need a gun for LGB/JDAM delivery. They can also carry a podded gun, IIRC. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
mvsgas Posted March 16, 2009 Posted March 16, 2009 Yes, according to General Dynamics web site, version B and C will carry the gun in a pod. I guess it is called GAU-22 based on the GAU-12. I just thought is wired we would revert back to guns in external pods. How would this affect RCS? I wander what, if any, flight characteristic would be affected? The gun had been used many occasions in later conflicts because it can be used in CAS, very close to friendly troops. How about accuracy? Would be less accurate in a POD compared to an internal version? Reliability? Would the POD gun used it own Hydraulic/electrical motor or take power from the aircraft? I also understand some of the reasons for the C version to carry a external gun with limited space inside the aircraft (That is one big front lift fan) but why the Navy version? To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Vault Posted March 19, 2009 Posted March 19, 2009 (edited) I think weight and space are at a premium on the F-35, AFAIK the gunpod is temporary on the F-35, I've read some litrature sometime ago about eventually replacing the gun on the F-35 with the Northrop Gruman Joint High Power Solid State Laser which will be powered by the JSF's engine. http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1171 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1985610/posts http://www.textrondefense.com/pdfs/datasheets/jhpssl_1.pdf http://files.aws.org/wj/2006/02/wj200602/wj200602-10.pdf If I've got something wrong please correct me I'm only quoting what I read in several PDF's. Edited March 19, 2009 by Vault [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team Groove Posted March 20, 2009 Author ED Team Posted March 20, 2009 New pics with opened doors: Source: http://www.jsf.mil/gallery/gal_photo_sdd_f35atest.htm 2 Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
Kusch Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Thanks Groove! :) Give me "flying telephone pole" (SA-2)!
Pilotasso Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 From below with bay dorrs open it doesnt like so much as a toy (although pretty lethal of course) .
4c Hajduk Veljko Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 F-35 needs to fly level to launch a missile? Thermaltake Kandalf LCS | Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | Etasis ET750 (850W Max) | i7-920 OC to 4.0 GHz | Gigabyte HD5850 | OCZ Gold 6GB DDR3 2000 | 2 X 30GB OCZ Vertex SSD in RAID 0 | ASUS VW266H 25.5" | LG Blue Ray 10X burner | TIR 5 | Saitek X-52 Pro | Logitech G930 | Saitek Pro flight rudder pedals | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
GGTharos Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 No ... where did you hear that? :) It needs to fly at >0.5g probably. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Yeah I'm guessing ... based on the fact that you need aircraft-weapon separation and some such requirements as implements on F-15A/C. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
nscode Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 No. He's a full time employee here ;) :D Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
Vault Posted March 20, 2009 Posted March 20, 2009 Awesome pictures Groove, I can't rep you anymore. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ED Team Groove Posted April 12, 2009 Author ED Team Posted April 12, 2009 (edited) Edited April 12, 2009 by Groove Our Forum Rules: http://forums.eagle.ru/rules.php#en
topol-m Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 I`m looking at those pictures on page 11 and i can`t believe it. Does this aircraft really carry just 2 bombs and 2 missiles? Is this its full capacity? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
mvsgas Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 I`m looking at those pictures on page 11 and i can`t believe it. Does this aircraft really carry just 2 bombs and 2 missiles? Is this its full capacity? AFAIK in Stealth configuration, yes. Why, what is wrong with that? Not everyone needs 10 A to A missiles or 16,000 pounds (7 257 kilograms) of weapons :D To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
EtherealN Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Picked up at Aerospaceweb.org: Picked up at jsf.mil: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
nscode Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 Is it able to jettison those pylons? Never forget that World War III was not Cold for most of us.
GGTharos Posted April 12, 2009 Posted April 12, 2009 I believe all pylons on stealth aircraft are in fact able to be jettisoned - already demonstrated on the F-22, but hey, who knows ... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
topol-m Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 AFAIK in Stealth configuration, yes. Why, what is wrong with that? Not everyone needs 10 A to A missiles or 16,000 pounds (7 257 kilograms) of weapons :D The more you have the better. Everyone needs more than 2 A-A missiles. F-35s internal bays have too little capacity IMO. Does anyone know how many weapons the YF-23 could carry in its internal bays in comparison with F-35/F-22. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
tflash Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Show me a recent conflict where amraam-equipped aircraft needed more than 2 missiles for self-defense? For CAP and intercept, an F-35B can carry 4 amraams. Not much, but maybe enough as a deterrent? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
topol-m Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 There hasn`t been a recent conflict involving some of the largest states of the world having large air forces fighting on opposite sides. In such great conflict with high consentration of fighters having some extra missiles will always be a good thing. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
EtherealN Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Well Topol, if they absolutely need more missiles, they'll use the wing pylons. If they're more onto maximum stealth, they won't. Loadout based on mission. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
LaRata Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Well Topol, if they absolutely need more missiles, they'll use the wing pylons. If they're more onto maximum stealth, they won't. Loadout based on mission. Not sure but the only model that uses stealth tech. will be the US Air Force Ver. Only ?? F-35A (CTOL)Conventional take-off and landing for US Air Force . . ( stealth ) F-35B (STOVL)Short take-off and landing for US Marine Corps, and the UK Navy and Air Force(non stealth) F-35C (CV)Carrier variant for US Navy ( none stealth ) International Orders will be Non-Stealth, F-35 ? LaRata
tflash Posted April 13, 2009 Posted April 13, 2009 Where do you get that from? All versions feature stealth technologies. There is not even a hint the F-35A would be more stealthy than the others. There is some discussion though if the international export versions will feature the same level of stealth-enhancing mesure than the US ones. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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