sublimeswell Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 Hello, When I take air-to-ground weapons out on the JF-17 and make hard turns, the weapons/pylons fail. Is this normal? Is this a part of the realism, or is it a bug? If the former, then I have to say, that's a serious design flaw. Are there any fixes to this? I'm pretty sure that it doesn't happen on other planes . . .
draconus Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 Yes, there are store limitations implemented in JF-17, it's not a design flaw, it's RL limitations for every aircraft and store, and it's a pity the other planes don't have it. 2 Win10 i7-10700KF 32GB RTX4070S Quest 3 T16000M VPC CDT-VMAX TFRP FC3 F-14A/B F-15E CA SC NTTR PG Syria
Northstar98 Posted June 1, 2022 Posted June 1, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, sublimeswell said: Hello, When I take air-to-ground weapons out on the JF-17 and make hard turns, the weapons/pylons fail. Is this normal? Is this a part of the realism, or is it a bug? It's realistic. 19 hours ago, sublimeswell said: If the former, then I have to say, that's a serious design flaw. Not really, in the real life flight manual for these aircraft you'll come across a stores limitation diagram, which will tell you things like the limit on how much weight and how many Gs a store and its hardpoint can be expected to tolerate. From what I can find, the JF-17 has a rated payload weight of 3.7 tonnes. Now let's say I'm carrying something like a C-802, which has a mass of 715 kg. If I then go and pull 5 Gs, that pylon now has to support an apparent weight just shy of 3.6 tonnes all by itself - and thats only at 5 Gs. Just for compare that's not far off half of the empty weight of a JF-17. It's unreasonable to expect that the hardpoints and weapons will tolerate the same manoeuvres and g loading that the aircraft otherwise can. 19 hours ago, sublimeswell said: Are there any fixes to this? I'm pretty sure that it doesn't happen on other planes . . . It doesn't happen with other modules because they haven't implemented over-g damage on stores, the JF-17 has a higher fidelity implementation. Edited June 1, 2022 by Northstar98 2 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
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