Kuznetsov History

rayrayblues · August 31, 2022

I found this short video very informative, so I thought I would share it. Enjoy.

Rudel_chw · August 31, 2022

Haven’t watched the video yet, but I’m always wary of clickbait titles and thumbnaiils, lika putting putin’s face on it.

rayrayblues · August 31, 2022

2 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

lika putting putin’s face on it.

Yeah, I don't like that part, but the video is good.

Paladin1cd · September 3, 2022

Thank you for sharing. Informative. Explains a lot I didn't know about that vessel.

Raisuli · September 29, 2022

Yeah...the clickbait image and (worse) opening line was almost enough for me to avoid the entire channel. I did ignore this for quite a while but watched it eventually. One thing that raised an eyebrow was the bit about Soviet ships having to steam in port due to the lack of shore facilities (power/water/CHT). I haven't heard that from any other source, but it would be interesting to be able to confirm/deny it.

Of course there are other things that explain the state of the Soviet Navy, and specifically the state of the Soviet Nuclear Navy, which I have understandably more interest in. I'm not a fan of the term 'systemic', but there were/are systemic problems involved.

I would dearly love to tour some of those old Soviet boats/ships and see how they compare to what I'm used to. Two completely different approaches to the same problem.

Yoda967 · October 3, 2022

The reported lack of shore facilities seems plausible. Shore power could be unreliable at times at US Navy port facilities (sometimes for stupid reasons; I once had to explain Ohm's Law to a shore power engineer to get the correct power fed to our frigate), so it makes sense that the Soviets would have problems like that, too. If there's no shore power, a ship has to make its own.

I spent a couple days aboard a Udaloy-class destroyer in early '93 and at least that class (then new -- the ship was 7 years old) did not have the capacity to make water. Where US Navy ships deploying "independently" are typically unaccompanied, this ship had brought a water tender to the Gulf. Udaloy-class ships aren't steam-powered, so that might be why they didn't make their own water.

CHT stands for "collection, holding, and transfer" and wouldn't be a factor in needing shore power. You need a shore connection for it (it's sewage), but the lack of a CHT connection would have no bearing on ship's power.

rayrayblues · October 7, 2022

On 9/29/2022 at 3:35 PM, Raisuli said:

Yeah...the clickbait image and (worse) opening line was almost enough for me to avoid the entire channel. I did ignore this for quite a while but watched it eventually. One thing that raised an eyebrow was the bit about Soviet ships having to steam in port due to the lack of shore facilities (power/water/CHT). I haven't heard that from any other source, but it would be interesting to be able to confirm/deny it.

Of course there are other things that explain the state of the Soviet Navy, and specifically the state of the Soviet Nuclear Navy, which I have understandably more interest in. I'm not a fan of the term 'systemic', but there were/are systemic problems involved.

I would dearly love to tour some of those old Soviet boats/ships and see how they compare to what I'm used to. Two completely different approaches to the same problem.

I apologize. It's virtually impossible now a days to find You Tube vids without sensationalized titles and/or thumbnails.

It's a never-ending battle for clicks, likes and subs even for legitimate vids. I guess it's just the nature of the beast.

Once I got passed that, I did enjoy the content.