Question - sight and acquisition - what is ?00 and seeker?

[hreich]

When selecting acquisition source ,thre is ?00 nad seeker option...What exactly are those options?

[kgillers3]

34 minutes ago, hreich said:

When selecting acquisition source ,thre is ?00 nad seeker option...What exactly are those options?

Seeker is the missile seeker from the hellfire when it’s tracking a laser, ?00 should be either a cm, wp, or tgt but you don’t have any selected yet. 

[Dallas88B]

1 hour ago, hreich said:

acquisition source ,thre is ?00 nad seeker option...What exactly are those options?

DCS AH-64D Quick Start Manual , Page 348 (see Note below)
The most recent TSD point selected as an acquisition source drives the constraints box (point number shown above bezel button B5 after selecting the ACQ expanded menu on the WPN or TSD page) If no point has been selected as an acquisition source yet in the flight, the text above
B5 within the ACQ menu will display “?00” in white

at Page 103/4 Acquisition Source (ACQ). Indicates the currently selected acquisition
source. Acquisition sources include:
a. PHS – Pilot Helmet Sight
b. GHS – Gunner Helmet Sight
c. SKR – Tracking missile seeker
d. RFI – Radio Frequency Interferometer
e. FCR – Fire Control Radar
f. FXD – Fixed forward (0° in azimuth/-4.9° in elevation)
g. W##, H##, C##, T## – (## is the number of the stored Waypoint,
Hazard, Control Measure or Target/Threat)
h. TRN – Cursor-selected terrain location on the TSD

There is a YT video that explains this a bit "DCS AH-64D: Acquisition Sources explained" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU1fiDnVQL4&t=304s

Note: Latest manual is updated by DCS with patches and is on your computer at /Eagle Dynamics/DCS World OpenBeta/Mods/aircraft/AH-64D/Doc/ .  The manual on the DCS Web site was (when I last looked) out of date

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

There was a lot of discussion on the ACQ source and TADS when the module first came out as it can get confusing in the beginning. You can try a word search on the forums. There is some good info there.  

[16th Widowmakr]

On 8/31/2022 at 9:00 AM, Dallas88B said:

DCS AH-64D Quick Start Manual , Page 348 (see Note below)
The most recent TSD point selected as an acquisition source drives the constraints box (point number shown above bezel button B5 after selecting the ACQ expanded menu on the WPN or TSD page) If no point has been selected as an acquisition source yet in the flight, the text above
B5 within the ACQ menu will display “?00” in white

at Page 103/4 Acquisition Source (ACQ). Indicates the currently selected acquisition
source. Acquisition sources include:
a. PHS – Pilot Helmet Sight
b. GHS – Gunner Helmet Sight
c. SKR – Tracking missile seeker
d. RFI – Radio Frequency Interferometer
e. FCR – Fire Control Radar
f. FXD – Fixed forward (0° in azimuth/-4.9° in elevation)
g. W##, H##, C##, T## – (## is the number of the stored Waypoint,
Hazard, Control Measure or Target/Threat)
h. TRN – Cursor-selected terrain location on the TSD

There is a YT video that explains this a bit "DCS AH-64D: Acquisition Sources explained" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hU1fiDnVQL4&t=304s

Note: Latest manual is updated by DCS with patches and is on your computer at /Eagle Dynamics/DCS World OpenBeta/Mods/aircraft/AH-64D/Doc/ .  The manual on the DCS Web site was (when I last looked) out of date

I am trying to get the CPG acquisition source to a Target point. I watched the YT video and it shows clicking on the ACQ then ?00 and it brings up the COORD page. However when I do this in the CPG seat it does not bring up the COORD page. When I go to the COORD page and select a TGT point and try to slave to it nothing happens?

[Dallas88B]

6 hours ago, 16th Widowmakr said:

When I go to the COORD page and select a TGT point and try to slave to it nothing happens?

Sorry I have no answer. Suggest you post this as a new separate question with a specific title and maybe others will notice and can help

[glen.a.williamson]

I found the above video to be very informative ... you might too.

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

On 8/31/2022 at 8:40 PM, hreich said:

When selecting acquisition source ,there is ?00 and seeker option...What exactly are those options?

Selecting SKR (hellfire missile seeker) as ACQ basically allows you to see where the missile is looking at from the CPG TEDAC display. For example, with JTAC/AFAC (or buddy) lasing, point the aircraft at the lased target area. Select SKR as ACQ and you'll see the missile looking at the target with the dotted cross after initiating the Slave command. The cross won't necessarily be exactly on the target. It's just where the seeker is looking. Fire off and missile should hit the lased target (within parameters).

On 10/23/2022 at 11:08 PM, 16th Widowmakr said:

I am trying to get the CPG acquisition source to a Target point. I watched the YT video and it shows clicking on the ACQ then ?00 and it brings up the COORD page. However when I do this in the CPG seat it does not bring up the COORD page. When I go to the COORD page and select a TGT point and try to slave to it nothing happens?

Yeah clicking ?00 does not bring up the COORD page. You have to select the COORD button for a TG or the WPTHZ button for a WPT. Did you then put the TEDAC display in TADS mode before slaving? Works on my end. But I find it can be quite inaccurate if clicking with the MPD cursor on the TSD to get a WPT or TG location. Keying in coordinates would be more precise.   

 

Edited October 25, 2022 by GrEaSeLiTeNiN

[Moxica]

On 10/24/2022 at 5:17 PM, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:

Selecting SKR (hellfire missile seeker) as ACQ basically allows you to see where the missile is looking at from the CPG TEDAC display. For example, with JTAC/AFAC (or buddy) lasing, point the aircraft at the lased target area. Select SKR as ACQ and you'll see the missile looking at the target with the dotted cross after initiating the Slave command. The cross won't necessarily be exactly on the target. It's just where the seeker is looking. Fire off and missile should hit the lased target (within parameters).

Yeah clicking ?00 does not bring up the COORD page. You have to select the COORD button for a TG or the WPTHZ button for a WPT. Did you then put the TEDAC display in TADS mode before slaving? Works on my end. But I find it can be quite inaccurate if clicking with the MPD cursor on the TSD to get a WPT or TG location. Keying in coordinates would be more precise.   

 

 

 

Interesting!
I use this method slightly different; I enter coordinates from JTAC, and select it as ACQ. I then align (with red tg point on the mfd/map) the AH64 until the (LOAL) square turns solid, and report "IN"
Firing from behind cover with Reaper JTAC lasing is boss! 

Edited November 3, 2022 by Moxica

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

3 hours ago, Moxica said:

Interesting!
I use this method slightly different; I enter coordinates from JTAC, and select it as ACQ. I then align (with red tg point on the mfd/map) the AH64 until the (LOAL) square turns solid, and report "IN"
Firing from behind cover with Reaper JTAC lasing is boss! 

 

Yeah the SKR procedure was just to explain/show what the SKR does. In a real mission, I would also have to enter the coords from the JTAC and look for the target