JMartin Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 For some reason for the past couple weeks I was having an issue with the Apache frame rate. I was able to narrow it down to when the CMWS goes from it's bit test to displaying the amount of flares and chaff. You can see by the video attached that as soon as the panel goes from it's bit test to being on the frames immediately drop to an unplayable level. I've tried everything from deleting the module and reinstalling it, to changing to all low graphic settings. Nothing helps so that's why I'm posting it here. Attached is the log file if needed as well. Any help would be greatly appreciated as I can't fly the Apache until I can figure out what's causing this. All other modules for fine in DCS. dcs.log
Dallas88B Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 Just a few thoughts after looking at the log Have you got any mods loaded? If so maybe try un-installing the mods just to see a few "No suitable driver found" errors... so maybe update your GPU driver. Try uninstalling / reinstalling the Syria Map (from log No suitable driver found to mount mods/terrains/syria/assets/assetstextures) Try doing a DCS repair https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/repair/ See if the problem occurs in a simple instant action hot start like Caucasus map AH 64D Runway Start MSI Z690 EDGE | i5 12600K | RTX 3070 TUF OC 8GB | Kingston Fury Renegade 32GB 3600MHz CL16 | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 |SilverStone 1000W Strider 80+ Platinum PSU | LG 34GN850 UWQHD 160Hz G-Sync HDR IPS 34in Monitor | Antlion Audio ModMic Uni-Directional Microphone with Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Closed Back Studio Headphones | Behringer Xenyx 302USB Mixer | Virpil T-50CM3 Throttle | DELANCLiP head tracking | Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate | Crosswind Pedals | W10
JMartin Posted September 11, 2022 Author Posted September 11, 2022 I’ll uninstall the mods again. I’ve tried it and it didn’t help so I put them back in. I did update reinstall the GPU drivers. I’ll maybe try to rollback to the previous one as well today. I’ll also try reinstalling the map as well. I did a DCS repair. It didn’t help. It removed a few liveries. I’ll try the instant action hot start as well.
Dallas88B Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, JMartin said: I’ll try the instant action hot start as well. Given you have repaired DCS and updated the GPU drivers to the latest, I agree its worth the annoyance of removing the mods again and try the instant action hot start - just incase its a problem with the mission, mission map, or mod. If that doesn't sort it then I would put in a ticket to DCS. They will want a DxDiag file and other logs - its all described here https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/support/faq/support_ticket/ Apologies for stating what you probably already know, but just in case. I doubt it is the Apache module because surely there would be lots of folk complaining of the massive drop in frame rates. (For what its worth my own FPS works fine and I was unable to replicate the problem) I am sure DCS have capable folk more able to read the log file and point out the problem. Would be interested in hearing what it turns out to be. MSI Z690 EDGE | i5 12600K | RTX 3070 TUF OC 8GB | Kingston Fury Renegade 32GB 3600MHz CL16 | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 |SilverStone 1000W Strider 80+ Platinum PSU | LG 34GN850 UWQHD 160Hz G-Sync HDR IPS 34in Monitor | Antlion Audio ModMic Uni-Directional Microphone with Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Closed Back Studio Headphones | Behringer Xenyx 302USB Mixer | Virpil T-50CM3 Throttle | DELANCLiP head tracking | Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate | Crosswind Pedals | W10
JMartin Posted September 11, 2022 Author Posted September 11, 2022 So I uninstalled all mods, and rolled back my drivers to the previous version. Also reinstalled the Syria map. The problem seems to only happen in multiplayer. Instant action whether being a hot start or cold start doesn't matter. Works fine that way. The performance hit is there in the other maps as well on multiplayer, it's just way worse on the Syria map. I'm going to put in a ticket and see what happens.
Dallas88B Posted September 11, 2022 Posted September 11, 2022 Ok ! Making progress and narrowing down the problem so thats good. Good luck with the DCS support ticket. Maybe let us know what happens. MSI Z690 EDGE | i5 12600K | RTX 3070 TUF OC 8GB | Kingston Fury Renegade 32GB 3600MHz CL16 | Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 |SilverStone 1000W Strider 80+ Platinum PSU | LG 34GN850 UWQHD 160Hz G-Sync HDR IPS 34in Monitor | Antlion Audio ModMic Uni-Directional Microphone with Beyerdynamic DT 770 PRO Closed Back Studio Headphones | Behringer Xenyx 302USB Mixer | Virpil T-50CM3 Throttle | DELANCLiP head tracking | Gunfighter Mk.III MCE Ultimate | Crosswind Pedals | W10
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted September 12, 2022 ED Team Posted September 12, 2022 Hi, I have tried to reproduce this but no luck so far. If possible please attach a short as possible track replay showing an example, it maybe something happening in the mission triggering it. thanks Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
JMartin Posted September 12, 2022 Author Posted September 12, 2022 So I found out it’s something to do with the dcs export scripts that’s installed to use the stream deck. I removed that from my scripts folder and it works fine now. Not sure what in there is causing it but at least I know what it is now. 2
Shad0s Posted September 16, 2022 Posted September 16, 2022 Hi i`ve got the same Problem and fixed it. Go to the AH64 LUA in the ExportModules Folder. Open it with Note++ and search for CMWS and delete the CMWS functions part. (Picture) After that you cant read the Flares and Chaffs into the Streamdeck but still use the buttons. 2
JMartin Posted September 17, 2022 Author Posted September 17, 2022 I’ll try that out. For now I’ve taken the whole folder out of the DCS so I’m not even using the stream deck.
Ditch3r Posted September 18, 2022 Posted September 18, 2022 (edited) I had this problem not too long ago. I fixed it by removing export scripts from my saved games folder. It seems there was something there causing issues. Edited September 18, 2022 by Ditch3r 1 https://www.youtube.com/@ditch3rgames
Derrick006 Posted February 25, 2023 Posted February 25, 2023 hi guys, I have the same issue but i can t find the file to update can you pplease specify the way to acces it ? Thanks I7 12700k RTX3080ti ddr4 80g Quest2 Winwing environnement !
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