Ali Fish Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 hello folks, my question is regards getting my server to appear in the main multiplayer server listing. how is it done ? folks can join via IP with myself fine. I have added port 10308 to my router. i have also searched through many threads for this info. i think there should be a sticky for multiplayer do,s donts, and FAQ,s thats easily accesible from front page of forum. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 Did you select 'internet play' rather than 'LAN play'? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Ramstein Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 hello folks, my question is regards getting my server to appear in the main multiplayer server listing. how is it done ? folks can join via IP with myself fine. I have added port 10308 to my router. i have also searched through many threads for this info. i think there should be a sticky for multiplayer do,s donts, and FAQ,s thats easily accesible from front page of forum. there is a multiplayer forum here already... :smilewink: http://forums.eagle.ru/forumdisplay.php?f=94 ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR
xxvintersorgxx Posted January 8, 2009 Posted January 8, 2009 hello folks, my question is regards getting my server to appear in the main multiplayer server listing. how is it done ? folks can join via IP with myself fine. I have added port 10308 to my router. i have also searched through many threads for this info. i think there should be a sticky for multiplayer do,s donts, and FAQ,s thats easily accesible from front page of forum. you need to forward 10307 also .. not sure why
Ali Fish Posted January 8, 2009 Author Posted January 8, 2009 TYVM sir. and i totally missed that forum area. cheers:thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ali Fish Posted January 9, 2009 Author Posted January 9, 2009 after adding ports 10307 &10308 it still doesnt work :( my friend can see the IP listed with no other game information available. rest of the fields are blank.... and from the list he is unable to join. but Via IP it connects without issues. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
xxvintersorgxx Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 after adding ports 10307 &10308 it still doesnt work :( my friend can see the IP listed with no other game information available. rest of the fields are blank.... and from the list he is unable to join. but Via IP it connects without issues. I wish ED would come out and tell us what ports it uses for all network traffic. I'm sure it uses another port specifically for its game lists. Almost every game i've every played and tried to host has made me open 3+ ports at the very least
Airway Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 I only have set up port 10308. Maybe 10307 was a typo. After adding port 10308 to your router, yxou can check on pcflank.com if that port ist stealth, closed or open. it should at least be shown as closed only and while hosting it should be shown as open. stealth is bad because ist not visible for the ones who want to join your session. http://www.pcflank.com/scanner1.htm At "Scan desired ports and/or the range of ports. Type in the port number and/or port range, separated by commas (example: 14, 80, 200-240)." enter port 10308 only
TheMoose Posted January 10, 2009 Posted January 10, 2009 It`s not a question of opening the ports only, but port fowarding. If your network is via a router, have issues hosting? Then, check this link http://portforward.com/routers.htm select your router setting and gaming config, use Lockon settings… 10308 TCP/UDP Antec 900 gaming tower, PSU: Corsair 750W, Q6600, Asus P5K, 8Gig Mushkin, Nvidia eVGA 280 GTX Superclocked 1G DDR3, SSDNOW200 Kingston Drive, TrackIr 3000+Vector, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick, Saitek rudder pedals pro, Sharp 42" inch LCD Aquo. OS: windows 7 64bit.
xxvintersorgxx Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 It`s not a question of opening the ports only, but port fowarding. If your network is via a router, have issues hosting? Then, check this link http://portforward.com/routers.htm select your router setting and gaming config, use Lockon settings… 10308 TCP/UDP 10308 is not the only port DCS uses because i needed to port forward 10307 as well for IP connection. My point was that DCS obviously uses more ports than what is stated "10308". I believe the screen that gathers all the servers uses a 3rd port other than those 2 like many other multiplayer games. :noexpression: Also "Port forwarding" essentially is "opening a port" on your router.
xxvintersorgxx Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 I only have set up port 10308. Maybe 10307 was a typo. After adding port 10308 to your router, yxou can check on pcflank.com if that port ist stealth, closed or open. it should at least be shown as closed only and while hosting it should be shown as open. stealth is bad because ist not visible for the ones who want to join your session. http://www.pcflank.com/scanner1.htm At "Scan desired ports and/or the range of ports. Type in the port number and/or port range, separated by commas (example: 14, 80, 200-240)." enter port 10308 only This was not a typo. At first i only needed to port forward 10308. then an hour or so later my buddy couldn't join. So i checked the forums, other people were having the same issue. Was suggested that i also open 10307 and this fixed the issue. Either there are multiple ports that need to be opened or DCS has some shifty netcode that needs to be addressed.
Ramstein Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 can someone from the Black Shark development team Verify this other port: 10307 ?? :huh: I looked through lots of documents and found very little official info on the ports.. only one everyone else has said is 10308. Thanx.. ASUS Strix Z790-H, i9-13900, WartHog HOTAS and MFG Crosswind G.Skill 64 GB Ram, 2TB SSD EVGA Nvidia RTX 2080-TI (trying to hang on for a bit longer) 55" Sony OLED TV, Oculus VR
Airway Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 Hmm. Well is there a difference between the versions? Why does it work for some with port 10308 only?
Ulrich Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 I wish ED would come out and tell us what ports it uses for all network traffic. I'm sure it uses another port specifically for its game lists. Almost every game i've every played and tried to host has made me open 3+ ports at the very least 10308 TCP and 10308 UDP.
Ali Fish Posted January 11, 2009 Author Posted January 11, 2009 given up now. IF i have done somthing wrong i accept. but considering what i have done and my experience with ports and hosting etc. This stuff is broken big time. this utter poo system for matching ip's, im sure i read only an estimated 5% of DCS users venture anywhere near online. is this the reason for the shoddy system with lack of support and general help from dcs in the forums etc.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ali Fish Posted January 11, 2009 Author Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) eyp, here is specific link for me and my router. http://portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/BT/BTHomeHub/Lock_On_Modern_Air_Combat.htm this is exactly what i did on day 1. i do this exact same method for all my games and whatever services i use. not one problem ive ever had before through doing exactly as this page link tells me. ive been to that website hundreds of times i know it like the back of my hand, leme tell you politely " it does not work". im 34 yrs of age. ive been doing this for damn ports for atleast 10 years. what i see on the server after exiting and then refreshing list to see whats exactly there, is this my 86.xx.xxx.xx :53947. (yes ive bloody well opened that too) with no game info whatsoever. and im not the only one of these listed on this lobby browser"thing". WTF is 53947 ? ive suggested in game server settings 10308. its not even cleared of the server after ive exited my server attempts ,why is that? i propose either my regional country IP code for some reason is not allowed. or its broken. and where 53947 port number comes from only DCS can tell me. but there lack of being here sorting it out is nearly makin me not enjoy this sim. ive spent equal time faffing around than i have playing the sim. i know i sound angry now and it wont help things but wow im so frustrated. <goes to light a FAT DOOB and chill out> Edited January 11, 2009 by Ali Fish [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Ali Fish Posted January 11, 2009 Author Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) ok im back and im calm now. were getting somewhere. having missed the port scanner link someone kindly provided. it turns out this 10308 isn't open even though my router says it is.. deary me. what ever is goin on... disabled windows firewall now (prev test was with ports added there. disabled router firewall (previous test was with ports added) i have tested everything. through pc flank, it tells me my 10308 is stealthed and decription for that suggest firewall is hindering access to the port. what other firewall is there lol ? i know now its not this software etc its definetly a problem at my end. my friend vekiq has got it workin great :) Edited January 11, 2009 by Ali Fish [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
xxvintersorgxx Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 I've forwarded 10308 but every time a client connects it seems as though they are using a random port. I've verified this by reading what it says after my friends name when he loads in and TCPView from SYSINTERNALS. Every single time a buddy and me attempt to start a little 2 player server we run in to problems. Its not a one time thing. I put my computer on a DMZ and it always fixes it. I do not want to have to run my PC on a DMZ for this game. It only intermittently works with the 1 port forwarded.
xxvintersorgxx Posted January 11, 2009 Posted January 11, 2009 (edited) My router apparently is stealthing my ports also even though it is forwarded Netgear Rangemax Wireless N WNR834B v2 Router Cox Communications Cable Internet Windows Vista x64 Connected via Ethernet Cable Edited January 11, 2009 by xxvintersorgxx Added Info
Ali Fish Posted January 12, 2009 Author Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) well managed to get ports to show open and scanned proved they were open. i have added DMZ also. tonight. but my friend couldnt see it in the list yet again. so anyway enough is enough, flying the thing must prevail. earlier he hosted worked fine ports scanned as open. server showed full info in list. so now. his system setup unchanged was tested for some flight. the result was no info on the game browser what so ever. so just ended up joining via IP. flew flew and flew some more. when i exited the server i check in the browser. it showed the usual IP only no other info. i refreshed the listing and it showed full info. but he had shut the server down at that stage... so what kinda of delay is happening with the info in the ingame server browser ???? still i see evidence of some random port 42396. attached to my ip in the browse 10308 is open without a doubt. Edited January 12, 2009 by Ali Fish [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
RichardG Posted January 17, 2009 Posted January 17, 2009 Same problem here fellas. I can join other easy, but cannot host a game. All ports are open, firewall opened etc. Im thinking there may be a problem with russian and english game versions connecting, or the multiplayer code is broken. I give up on this one until developers say something.
SixMarbles Posted January 19, 2009 Posted January 19, 2009 I was able to host a two-player server today using the default port of 10308. My server did not immediately show on the master server list, but a buddy on vent (=DFA=Dozer) was able to connect directly by IP address using 10308. After about an hour, I shut down the server. Out of curiosity I checked the server list again and noticed my server showing up, but with only the IP and port listed, with no mission info or server name. This listing persisted for several minutes after I had shut down the server. Also, the port was listed as 60104, which is completely random. It seems the port chosen is typically within 60000-64000. I do not use any kind of WAN to LAN port translation (different public and private ports). I am forwarding port 10308 TCP and UDP to my server's local IP. I recently tested all this nonsense by starting an internet server. While the server was running, I opened a command prompt and ran netstat with arguments -a -n -o and found that the DCS PID was using only port 10308 TCP and UDP. I'll try this again by allowing my DCS server to run for a good 20 minutes and then running netstat again to see if it has picked up a different port, since Graywo1fg has reported to me that the program seems to randomly switch ports every 10-20 minutes on its own.
SixMarbles Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Okay, I ran a netstat again about 20 minutes after starting a server, and the application still had the default UDP/TCP 10308 port bound. There were no other ports in use by that PID, and no applications were using ports in the 60000-64000 range even though the game was allegedly hosting on another random 60k port. Thus, I believe the master server is to blame, and not the game clients/servers or router configurations. Side note: When a player joins my server, he joins on another random port. The most recent one was in the 50k range, but again no activity on the server app's PID in netstat except the default 10308. Spooky voodoo!
graywo1fg Posted January 20, 2009 Posted January 20, 2009 Six Marbles this is EXACTLY the case!!!..... it HAS to be the master server miss-assigning us ports that it uses to ping the server to see what mission and the info we have on..... Voice of Jester AI Death From Above =DFA= Squadron Discord - https://discord.gg/deathfromabove http://www.twitch.tv/graywo1f https://www.youtube.com/user/Lonewo1fg
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