Cockpit View Locked Forward, Unable to Pan View

[ESzczesniak]

This problem almost certainly relates to me trying to setup Tobii Eye Tracker last night.  I stopped short of fully setting it up while I trouble shoot the mounting solution.  However, the software was installed (Tobii Game Hub and Tobii Experience)

Prior to this (and continuing at present), I have used a HAT switch on my joystick to pan the view, with a joystick button to center the view. 

Now when I enter the cockpit, I am unable to pan.  There's a slight twitch in the direction I press, but the camera immediately locks/recenters.  I have tried, and reviewed the following:

1. I have disabled Tobii Eye Tracker for DCS (in the Tobii Game Hub)

2. I have quite both Tobii Game Hub and Tobii Experience

3. I have ensured the HAT switch and center view remained mapped to the view pain

4. I have made sure the joystick button mapped to "center view" is not stuck.

5. Tried Alt+C and RCtrl+Num0 based on a couple threads I found, but without any luck.

Can anyone help me "unstick" the view so I can pan with the HAT switch as I normally have in the past? 

Even once I get Tobii Eye Tracker setup, I'd like to be able to pause the eye tracking and pan the view.  While I've found head trackers to not be ideal for large angles, such as switches in the back corner of cockpits. 

Edited November 5, 2022 by ESzczesniak

[draconus]

Afair whenever DCS detects trackir.dll running it assigns axis for the head tracking device so the normal button binds will fight with it or stop working - this is the effect you see. Watch for any headtracking app (probably in Windows startup) that is left running and uninstall it.

[Mike_Toth]

I have the same problem with my Tobii EyeTracker 5.....   if I stop the EyeTracker from use  I should default to my POV hat views.... did the same thing  the op did with no joy.

we shouldnt have to uninstall that software...   make sure its not running sure, but not uninstall....   

 

[PanosI]

Bumping the thread up.

Did you find any solution ?

I am facing the same problem the last days that I installed the Tobii 5.

[draconus]

11 minutes ago, PanosI said:

Did you find any solution ?

I'd start with stopping Tobii app or uninstalling it.

[Lukas2438]

the only way to get POV controls back while Tobii is connected and/or running, is to disable the tobii eye tracker in the DCS controls (shown below)

this way you can keep the tobii applications running in background and don't need to unplug the device

Edited June 21, 2023 by Lukas2438

[PanosI]

14 minutes ago, Lukas2438 said:

the only way is to disable the tobii eye tracker in the DCS controls (shown below)

this way you can keep the tobii applications running in background

That's it !

Not the best but the only solution.

Thanks !

[Lukas2438]

we finally need a keybinding to pause or (de)activate any connected headtracker

[ChrisEDDF]

Hi!

Any update on this?

@ED: Could you look into adding a keybind for stopping head tracking?

Also, in MSFS it is possible to use the head tracker (Tobii) and also the POV hat to still move the view simultaneously. This, in my view, would be the best option.

 

Thanks

ChrisEDDF

[SharpeXB]

On 6/21/2023 at 10:11 AM, Lukas2438 said:

we finally need a keybinding to pause or (de)activate any connected headtracker

I know TrackIR at least has a pause command. Once you become acclimated to head tracking I can’t imagine you’ll want to pause it though, that’s quite jarring. 

On 11/5/2022 at 2:02 PM, ESzczesniak said:

Even once I get Tobii Eye Tracker setup, I'd like to be able to pause the eye tracking and pan the view.  While I've found head trackers to not be ideal for large angles, such as switches in the back corner of cockpits. 

Experiment with the response curves. If it’s anything like TrackIR you should have no trouble seeing any part of the cockpit or even looking at your 6:00. I think the default setting for these devices might not imagine you looking that far around. I know TrackIR’s default preset “Default” isn’t what we need in flight sims. Changing that setting to “Smooth” works better. 

Edited June 3, 2024 by SharpeXB

[Lukas2438]

@SharpeXB When pausing Eye Tracker, you still can't use mouse or POV-button assignments to look around. Only deactivating head tracker in Controls menu activates conventional look control.

[SharpeXB]

15 minutes ago, Lukas2438 said:

@SharpeXB When pausing Eye Tracker, you still can't use mouse or POV-button assignments to look around. Only deactivating head tracker in Controls menu activates conventional look control.

I guess the assumption is that with head tracking you shouldn’t need the POV buttons. I think if you adjust the response curves you’ll discover you don’t need buttons after all.