need track replay F/A-18C, Laser control with TGP and Gear-Retraction-Warning

[Wngmn_Tombo]

Hi guys,

recently I practiced the use of the TGP in combination with A/G lasing and bombing (GBU 16). My "Mission Briefing" was quite simple:

Carrier Take-off -- Target designation via TGP -- Lasing -- Bombing -- RTB, Case 1 Recovery -- Refueling/Rearming -- 2nd Carrier T/O -- Target designation via TGP -- Lasing -- Bombing -- RTB

The first bombing-round was a success and went as planned. The problems came on the 2nd run:

After the 2nd carrier T/O I got the gear-retraction warning - that constant "boob-boob-boob-boob-...." and the gear lever lights red. That's probably because I gained too quick too much speed after the catapult launch and the gear wasn't fully retracted as I passed >250 KIAS. I continued my flight anyway and got to the bombing area. On Arrival, FLIR was active and working, Master on ARM, A/G-Mode, Target designated, but my LTD/R switch for lasing didn't want to stay in the "ON" position.

 

Here are my 2 questions now:

- How do I get rid of the gear-retraction-warning midflight/airborne? The procedure: "Slowing down <200 KIAS -- Fully extend landing gear -- Retract gear again" didn't help. After retraction the warning sound (boob-boob-boob...) continued as before. Do you have any tips for me??

- Could it be that BECAUSE OF the ongoing gear-retraction-warning I was unable to activate my LTD/R on the second run? Do they relate to each other? Or did I miss anything else to activate??

 

Really appreciate your help! In case you need any further info just let me know.

Cheers

Tom

[BIGNEWY]

Hi 

without a track it will be difficult to say, but it sounds like you have damaged your undercarriage or the covers. 

Maybe blast damage or due to high speed before retracting the landing gear? 

If you have a track replay please attach it. 

thanks

[Foka]

2 hours ago, Wngmn_Tombo said:

- How do I get rid of the gear-retraction-warning midflight/airborne? The procedure: "Slowing down <200 KIAS -- Fully extend landing gear -- Retract gear again" didn't help. After retraction the warning sound (boob-boob-boob...) continued as before. Do you have any tips for me??

You can't if you damaged landing gear, or gear bay door. Simply solution is - do not overspeed your landing gear.
Here you can read more on this topic: 

 

2 hours ago, Wngmn_Tombo said:

- Could it be that BECAUSE OF the ongoing gear-retraction-warning I was unable to activate my LTD/R on the second run? Do they relate to each other? Or did I miss anything else to activate??

You can't deploy weapon if gear door is damaged, so blocking arming laser is very probable, but never tested it.

[Wngmn_Tombo]

Hi,

first of all, thanks for the quick responses! And glad to hear that I didn't forget anything and, obviously, I did everything right as far as I could (except for the T/O-overspeeding, which messed everything up).

 

vor 15 Stunden schrieb BIGNEWY:

If you have a track replay please attach it.

--> Unfortunately I don't. On the upcoming weekend, I might have the possibility to simulate the same scenario. Then I'll track it or make screenshots.

 

vor 13 Stunden schrieb Foka:

You can't if you damaged landing gear, or gear bay door.

--> Makes sense - same as BIGNEWY wrote. So, better being careful with the speed.

 

vor 16 Stunden schrieb Foka:

You can't deploy weapon if gear door is damaged

--> That's been my thought as well. That the damaged undercarriage blocks the use of weapons. Furthermore I didn't even try to release the GBU16's in any other way (e.g. CCIP), but RTB as soon as the laser couldn't be activated. Because that'd proof that you can't deploy any weapon AT ALL with an undercarriage damage - and not just the laser arming.

 

I'll let you know about the results of my next trails.

Always happy landings.

[Wngmn_Tombo]

So, the result of my "investigations" are: Simply maneuver her within the limits.

You were right. A damaged gear/bay door is only repairable on the ground (engines off), not midflight.

All weapons are also blocked by the system and not deployable, target laser included.

 

Hope this helps some other guys in the future, too.

Thanks for your help!