reported The shine of headlights is not visible in real life with IR cams

[GKOver]

In DCS the shines of the headlights of the cars are clearly visible. 

But in real life they aren‘t. Especially not with Xenon or LED headlights.

They would only be visible if the headlights would have so much IR energy that they would warm up the street while driving on it.

I have also checkes that with a HIKMicro Pocket 2 (40mK thermal sensitivity) and with Halogen headlights ……

Edited March 1, 2023 by GKOver

[NineLine]

Thanks will discuss with the team. 

 

[ex81]

I always thought this ia a flight simulation.

[Chizh]

В 22.01.2023 в 17:38, GKOver сказал:

In DCS the shines of the headlights of the cars are clearly visible. 

Could you say, what cars you mean?

[GKOver]

All kind of cars.

The headlights are not infrared lasers….

Therefore the beam itself is not visible with IR / thermal cameras.

[Chizh]

36 минут назад, GKOver сказал:

All kind of cars.

The headlights are not infrared lasers….

Therefore the beam itself is not visible with IR / thermal cameras.

Could you please share the screenshot

[NineLine]

@GKOver I could only see this issue on the Persian Gulf map, is that what you are seeing?

[GKOver]

On 3/1/2023 at 7:46 AM, Chizh said:

Could you please share the screenshot

 

I have uploaded 5 photos made with the thermal sensor of a HikMicro Pocket2 (thermal sensitivity 40 mK) and added their belonging 5 VISUAL photos (also black and white).
They were made in the night (-10 C coldness) after a 30 minute drive wit this car (Skoda Roomster with Halogen headlights) and parking with switched-on headlamps for 2 minutes.

-> As you can see: the headlights can't warm up the wall in front of the car and there is no beam visible. (Xenon or LED headlights are even colder than Halogen.)
Of course, from a longer distance the thermal sensitivity and resolution will get much less.

(May be that such a beam would be visible while heavy rain or snow fall under very special circumstances and a small distance.)

I don't think that this behavior depends on the map.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 8, 2023 by GKOver

[oldcrusty]

Since I've made a video clip on YT showing the 'IR jamming' by lit up area of street lights and car headlights quite a while back...  I'm happy to be the first one to report that the problem has been fixed   .  in ST version of DCS (which I currently use), not sure about MT.   Ref. PG map.

Edited March 19, 2023 by oldcrusty

[Napillo]

You do understand that cars of the past (which, depending on the time of the mission in DCS could be realistic) had incandescent lights. Incandescent lights used tungsten filaments that are heated up to 4600F (around 2500c) which will produce significant IR. Some cars still use those, and military vehicles old enough to be in DCS certainly had them.

[oldcrusty]

23 hours ago, Napillo said:

You do understand that cars of the past (which, depending on the time of the mission in DCS could be realistic) had incandescent lights. Incandescent lights used tungsten filaments that are heated up to 4600F (around 2500c) which will produce significant IR. Some cars still use those, and military vehicles old enough to be in DCS certainly had them.

Around the immediate area of the lamps, not as a reflection on the surface 30m away. 

I'm currently on vacation from DCS so I'm not sure what's going on in that department, MT or ST.

Edited August 9, 2023 by oldcrusty

[GKOver]

On 8/8/2023 at 8:57 PM, Napillo said:

You do understand that cars of the past (which, depending on the time of the mission in DCS could be realistic) had incandescent lights. Incandescent lights used tungsten filaments that are heated up to 4600F (around 2500c) which will produce significant IR. Some cars still use those, and military vehicles old enough to be in DCS certainly had them.

The IR photos which I have posted are made with a Skoda which still has classic headlights (with tungsten). With other classic headlights it is also the same.

With halogen filled lights the temperatures can reach up to 3000+ Kelvin.

Edited August 18, 2023 by GKOver

[Pyrocumulous]

Same issue with lighthouses. Beams are visible in IR even during the day with hot ambient temperature and direct sun.

DCS 2.9.1.48335 Open Beta MT.

Lighthouse_IR.miz

Edited November 27, 2023 by Pyrocumulous
add DCS version

[Pyrocumulous]

Landing lights at airports as well.

Edited December 22, 2023 by Pyrocumulous
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