investigating RWR new contact sound leftover

[Comrade Doge]

Hello all, I have noticed that after the new RWR sounds were implemented, a particular old sound is still present in the game. When a new airborne contact is detected, the correct sound (2 high pitched chirps) plays together with the outdated one. I will attach a trackfile showing the behavior, and also the audio file of the outdated sound that's still playing, so that you can easily recognize it. They start playing at the same time but hopefully you can hear it, even in Wags' video. Hopefully this can be easily removed, since it's quite redundant at the moment. Thanks

RWRoldSound.trk

[Moonshine]

also, is it correct that the missile launch warning tone stops beeping even though the missile is still tracking? (red missile warning light still blinking). the sound starts at missile launch and then stops shortly afterwards while the light still blinks until the missile defeated/lost track

Edited January 25, 2023 by Moonshine

[Comrade Doge]

Just now, Moonshine said:

also, is it correct that the missile launch warning tone stops beeping even though  he missile is still tracking? (red missile warning light still blinking). the sound starts at missile launch and then stops shortly afterwards while the light still blinks until the missile defeated/lost track

 

That would be correct as is as far as I know.

[AlexCaboose]

Just now, Moonshine said:

also, is it correct that the missile launch warning tone stops beeping even though  he missile is still tracking? (red missile warning light still blinking). the sound starts at missile launch and then stops shortly afterwards while the light still blinks until the missile defeated/lost track

 

While I haven't had a chance to download the update and check this out yet, what you should hear is an initial launch warning with 8 beeps, followed by a launch recycle tone 15s later at a lower tone. It should not be continuous, but there's an audible indication to let you know it's the same missile when the recycle is played.

[Moonshine]

alright, nice! yeah its still the same tone so distinguishing between new or the same missile is not yet possible. hope thats still WIP

edit: low tone does exist as long as you did not bank in a way that got you in the RWR blindspot. if you pass through the blindspot, it sounds like the initial new missile launch tone

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by Moonshine

[AlexCaboose]

You should hear the lower tone here in Wags' latest video: (3:35)

Check out this mod (although I don't know if it's compatible with the latest update). It uses audio from the Goldfein shootdown. https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3326800/

 

[al531246]

4 hours ago, Moonshine said:

also, is it correct that the missile launch warning tone stops beeping even though the missile is still tracking? (red missile warning light still blinking). the sound starts at missile launch and then stops shortly afterwards while the light still blinks until the missile defeated/lost track

It is correct.

Quote

1.25.4.5.3 Missile launch audio is a 1000 Hz tone, on for 100 milliseconds and off for 100 milliseconds, generated for 2.0 seconds. This audio sequence is equivalent to approximately seven beeps. The missile launch audio is recycled every 15 seconds for as long as the detected emitter remains in the missile launch mode. The missile launch recycle audio is a 515 Hz tone, on for 100 milliseconds and off for 100 milliseconds, generated for 2.0 seconds.

Edited January 25, 2023 by al531246

[Sithos]

@Comrade Doge 

Hey!

after countless DCS restarts (I have no idea if you can do it easier to make sdef changes work...) I figured out the sound and can give you a workaround:

1) Create this folder path structure
...\Saved Games\DCS(.openbeta)\Sounds\sdef\Aircrafts\F-16\Cockpit\Tones

2.) Copy the attached "Waterfall.sdef" to "Tones"
Waterfall.sdef : Sound for Airbrone Threat (only, i hope)

3.) You have to restart DCS if already open...

4) Silence

Waterfall.sdef

Edited January 26, 2023 by Sithos

[NOWIS]

@Sithos thanks for you help already! While this fixed the missile launch tone of SAM launches I still can't hear the audio cue for A-A missile launches. How did you find the audio file? Maybe I need another on for A-A launches.

[Sithos]

@NOWIS

Hey, you can find a List of all Sound here in Docs Folder:
..\DCS World OpenBeta\Doc\Sounds -> sdef_and_wave_list.txt