F-2 Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 22 minutes ago, MiG21bisFishbedL said: From what I can glib, the Chinese Gov are pretty black and white on the topic. Basically, if the type in service? It's no bueno. After all, we're not getting a J-8A (J-8 I if you prefer that nomenclature). There's probably a lot more to it than that (I'm sure that they'd not care too much if Deka wanted to make a CJ-6A, after all), but it seems to be the simplified rule of thumb. It's also kind of nice in as so much as you instantly know what is good to go and what isn't. With the Peace Pearl, they can combined accessible information on its radar set as well as the aerodynamic qualities of the J-8 II, of which the PLAAF doesn't seem to cagey about. The radar on the J-8H/F is actually not secret and it’s easy to get info on (it’s almost identical to apg-66). It seems cockpit functionality is the issue.
zerO_crash Posted January 22, 2024 Posted January 22, 2024 (edited) 44 minutes ago, MiG21bisFishbedL said: From what I can glib, the Chinese Gov are pretty black and white on the topic. Basically, if the type in service? It's no bueno. After all, we're not getting a J-8A (J-8 I if you prefer that nomenclature). There's probably a lot more to it than that (I'm sure that they'd not care too much if Deka wanted to make a CJ-6A, after all), but it seems to be the simplified rule of thumb. It's also kind of nice in as so much as you instantly know what is good to go and what isn't. With the Peace Pearl, they can combined accessible information on its radar set as well as the aerodynamic qualities of the J-8 II, of which the PLAAF doesn't seem to cagey about. I imagine that it's the software-side of the suite, which is the bigger problem here. JF-17 was mainly designed by China, but one thing they absolutely did not want to export, was the software of the airplane (cockpit ecosystem). Same goes for pretty much all of their exports. They will sell you the hardware, minus software to control it all (and other components like IFF for example). With the J-8PP, you really have a western digital suite in the cockpit. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the main objection against J-8II. Also, the tricky part with such laws, is that they are written in abstract, meaning that they basically work as a mechanism for persecution. Pretty much anything that walks on legs can be persecuted, should the government/relevant governmental organ, decide so. That's really the problem in most countries overall. Edited January 22, 2024 by zerO_crash [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
PLAAF Posted August 8, 2024 Posted August 8, 2024 On 8/6/2024 at 10:04 AM, FlankerFan35 said: Any news on progress? It has been a year and a half, they must have done something. My Adorable Communist Errand Girls Led by me, the Communist Errand Panda
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted August 10, 2024 Posted August 10, 2024 Presumably the boring back-end work. The kind of stuff that's not as sexy to show off as art. 3 Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
EasternEagle Posted September 24, 2024 Posted September 24, 2024 Still a day 1 buy for me once this releases, looking forward to more updates and hope all is going smoothly. 1 Modules : F-4E • JF-17 • F16 • F18 • F14 • F15E • M-2000C • Mirage F1 • A10CII • Black Shark 3 • Huey • FC4 • K-4 • Mi-8MTV2 • Mi-24P • Apache • Viggen • Spitfire • P-51 • CH-47F • Kiowa • Terrains: Afghan • Syria • PG • Sinai • Normandy 2.0 • South Atlantic • The Channel • Normandy 1944 • Nevada • Super Carrier • Iraq • System: I7-13700KF • 64GB DDR5-5600 • MSI RTX 4080 Ventus 3X OC • Peripherals: WinWing Orion 2 HOTAS MAX • WinWing Skywalker Pedals • Oculus Quest 3 •
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted October 28, 2024 Posted October 28, 2024 On 9/24/2024 at 9:35 AM, EasternEagle said: Still a day 1 buy for me once this releases, looking forward to more updates and hope all is going smoothly. Same. Behind the A-6, I think it might be my most looked-forward to. Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
Mike Force Team Posted April 27 Posted April 27 Hello, Deka, Do you have any new updates on the J-8II? It has been about two years since the last update Mike Force Team 4
Stratos Posted April 28 Posted April 28 13 hours ago, Mike Force Team said: Hello, Deka, Do you have any new updates on the J-8II? It has been about two years since the last update Mike Force Team So long already? Hope they can tell us something more about the plane and the module status. 2 I don't understand anything in russian except Davai Davai!
TomoKIN Posted April 29 Posted April 29 Hello, Does anyone have further information on the UFCP used? Be it Grumman Documents, US or native Chinese ones? 1 Brat 2-2 | TomoKIN JF-17, AV-8B, OH-58D, F-4E.
MiG21bisFishbedL Posted June 7 Posted June 7 (edited) I'm tempted to fly out and get pictures of the section in Topeka. Edited June 7 by MiG21bisFishbedL 1 Reformers hate him! This one weird trick found by a bush pilot will make gunfighter obsessed old farts angry at your multi-role carrier deck line up!
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