Leap Motion support in DCS is VERY disappointing.

[Woulve]

I bought a Leap Motion hand tracking device, and tried it out in DCS VR. The experience was not very great. Even though the tracking works fine in the Leap Motion App, my hands are all kinds of crooked in VR. My Fingers do weird stuff in DCS, even though they show up correctly in Leap Motion. And even worse is the pointing in DCS.

The cursor doesn't go where your finger points, it is very awkwardly positioned, I had to twist my hand way left, and way down, so the cursor went somewhat in the right position. It seems to point from the middle of your hand, not the finger, which is very annoying. And it wiggles around so much, it is almost impossible to hit buttons precisely.

Additionally, my hands disappear regularly in VR, without moving them. I have to move around my hands to get them to be tracked again.

 

All of these Problems are non-existent in the Leap Motion Control Panel

 

I also tried the "Fingers" app, that is supposed to emulate a mouse cursor by pointing your finger, but it also tracks your whole hand, not your finger, so I have to move my hand around in a very awkward manner to point where I want. I tried different tracking modes in leap motion, desktop, screen mounted and headset mounted, but nothing seems to improve the tracking.

 

I am very disappointed with the implementation of Leap Motion in DCS. The Leap Motion Tracking itself is very good, but in DCS it is very very bad.

Which is a shame, since finger pointing in DCS would be VERY beneficial for VR.

[firefox121]

hace 2 horas, Woulve dijo:

I bought a Leap Motion hand tracking device, and tried it out in DCS VR. The experience was not very great. Even though the tracking works fine in the Leap Motion App, my hands are all kinds of crooked in VR. My Fingers do weird stuff in DCS, even though they show up correctly in Leap Motion. And even worse is the pointing in DCS.

The cursor doesn't go where your finger points, it is very awkwardly positioned, I had to twist my hand way left, and way down, so the cursor went somewhat in the right position. It seems to point from the middle of your hand, not the finger, which is very annoying. And it wiggles around so much, it is almost impossible to hit buttons precisely.

Additionally, my hands disappear regularly in VR, without moving them. I have to move around my hands to get them to be tracked again.

 

All of these Problems are non-existent in the Leap Motion Control Panel

 

I also tried the "Fingers" app, that is supposed to emulate a mouse cursor by pointing your finger, but it also tracks your whole hand, not your finger, so I have to move my hand around in a very awkward manner to point where I want. I tried different tracking modes in leap motion, desktop, screen mounted and headset mounted, but nothing seems to improve the tracking.

 

I am very disappointed with the implementation of Leap Motion in DCS. The Leap Motion Tracking itself is very good, but in DCS it is very very bad.

Which is a shame, since finger pointing in DCS would be VERY beneficial for VR.

Ok, welcome to the Leap motion Issues...

First of all.... the device displays a interpretation on where it things the fingers should be when you have your device attached to the head., so if you put it on the desk the weird issue must disappear because the device is capable of see all the fingers...BUT I don't know if works desk mounted in VR.

I recommend a head mount but with a inclination of at least 15 degrees looking down

Second, the device is highly sensitive to reflections (monitor light, top hall lights etc), works better with a less lighted environment, that is a bad thing to the headset cameras , so is a bit tricky to configure lights in the room, some people uses a cardboard plate or something like that to put it on the monitor screen and not be interfered with the  monitor bright.

Also ensure you have the latest drivers from leapmotion working (ultraleap now)

And one more thing the device works better with high end rigs that can process all at a time ... 

You should buy a finger mouse ring , it allows you to click where your cursor is, not using the trigger movement or other movement because is very very sensitive, the most of the times you did not trigger the mouse click at the right place, ot else bind right mouse and left mouse click to your hotas

Also make sure to bind the hands on/off button at your Hotas buttons, because if you touch your axis the hadns disappears unless you have selected the use touch joy in the special Leap Motion tab.

Add for me, this is the weird thing, You must be far from your monitor desk etc, if you fly like me with the controllers mounted on the top of the desk the Leap Motion is totally a trash because your fingers and hands will collide with ,literally, EVERYTHIG in front of you making the experience very very anoying.

If you can solve all this issues , the leapmotion is a great experience.

Edited March 16, 2023 by firefox121

[edmuss]

Read through the pinned leap motion thread in the input devices forum, lots of useful information in there.

Best thing to do it turn off the laser pointers and flick switches properly (some are more difficult than others so keep the mouse cursor slaved to headset as a backup) and minimise IR reflective surfaces near where your hands are going to be

Edited March 16, 2023 by edmuss

[uncino]

Hello, with the latest update I can no longer delete the pointers that come out of my fingers. is there a solution for this?

[firefox121]

 

hace 10 horas, uncino dijo:

Hello, with the latest update I can no longer delete the pointers that come out of my fingers. is there a solution for this?

YEs, go to the VR tab and in the hands options choose no finger pointers-

En 16/3/2023 a las 18:37, Woulve dijo:

I bought a Leap Motion hand tracking device, and tried it out in DCS VR. The experience was not very great. Even though the tracking works fine in the Leap Motion App, my hands are all kinds of crooked in VR. My Fingers do weird stuff in DCS, even though they show up correctly in Leap Motion. And even worse is the pointing in DCS.

The cursor doesn't go where your finger points, it is very awkwardly positioned, I had to twist my hand way left, and way down, so the cursor went somewhat in the right position. It seems to point from the middle of your hand, not the finger, which is very annoying. And it wiggles around so much, it is almost impossible to hit buttons precisely.

Additionally, my hands disappear regularly in VR, without moving them. I have to move around my hands to get them to be tracked again.

 

All of these Problems are non-existent in the Leap Motion Control Panel

 

I also tried the "Fingers" app, that is supposed to emulate a mouse cursor by pointing your finger, but it also tracks your whole hand, not your finger, so I have to move my hand around in a very awkward manner to point where I want. I tried different tracking modes in leap motion, desktop, screen mounted and headset mounted, but nothing seems to improve the tracking.

 

I am very disappointed with the implementation of Leap Motion in DCS. The Leap Motion Tracking itself is very good, but in DCS it is very very bad.

Which is a shame, since finger pointing in DCS would be VERY beneficial for VR.

I found also the solution to displaced fingers, you must run the OXRT without zoom, and if you can in DCS VR options enable IPD and set to 62-64, but the most important thing is no zoom 

[uncino]

On 3/25/2023 at 7:44 PM, firefox121 said:

YEs, go to the VR tab and in the hands options choose no finger pointers-

After the last update, in the vr tab, you can no longer choose to remove the pointer

[firefox121]

hace 7 horas, uncino dijo:

After the last update, in the vr tab, you can no longer choose to remove the pointer

 

You must click on this point, is the only point where the menu appears.

 

 

[uncino]

Thank you

[Bvv.Fr]

new option to test!!

 

exactly what i needed. 

 

Edited November 11, 2023 by Bvv.Fr