My rig and possible upgrades

[Cunning_Raven]

Hello there! I want to upgrade my pc soon, but I don't know what my bottleneck is.

Gpu: Nvidia GTX 1050 (2 GB Vram)

Cpu: Ryzen 3 1300x quad-core

SSD: Samsung SSD 970 EVO plus 500 GB

Ram: 16 GB

 

 

I was thinking about upgrading my GPU first. Even the DCS FPS counter says I'm GPU bottlenecked.

[TheFreshPrince]

It depends on what you want and how much you can afford to spend and if you want to buy a new card or if used is fine. Basically anything is an upgrade for your system. I'd also start with the GPU because the 1050 is very low end.

I had a very similar CPU (i5-7600K) with a 980ti at QHD resolution and it gave me decent FPS at medium to high settings. You only need to upgrade the CPU if you want a much better GPU than that. If you want the ultimate price/performance king you could go for a used 1080ti, which still surpasses the 3060/2070 etc.

[Cunning_Raven]

8 minutes ago, TheFreshPrince said:

It depends on what you want and how much you can afford to spend and if you want to buy a new card or if used is fine. Basically anything is an upgrade for your system. I'd also start with the GPU because the 1050 is very low end.

I had a very similar CPU (i5-7600K) with a 980ti at QHD resolution and it gave me decent FPS at medium to high settings. You only need to upgrade the CPU if you want a much better GPU than that. If you want the ultimate price/performance king you could go for a used 1080ti, which still surpasses the 3060/2070 etc.

Thank you! I was thinking about buying something in the 3060 ti range, maybe go for the AMD counterpart. With Multi-threading, even the worse CPUs get a bit of a boost, so I don't think an update is necessary. My friend said that my SSD might also be bad, which sounds kind of weird to me, but maybe he's right. 

[TheFreshPrince]

I'd rather upgrade the RAM as a next step after the GPU, your SSD should be fine. RAM is very important for multiplayer and large missions. A 3060ti or similar is great, you should see a big improvement. A 2080ti could be an alternative. Or for AMD 6700xt/6750xt.

[SCHiZO]

OP - I would upgrade the whole rig to be honest. Save up and do it right. Get a new chipset, cpu, ram and gpu. You can of course do this in stages as it will be pricey. I have a Ryzen 5800X which is great but you could go for a Ryzen 3000 processor and you still will see a big performance increase. If the prices are close, just grab a Ryzen 5000.

RAM these days, you'll need at least 32GB for it to last awhile. I have 32GB and it does everything I need.

GPU, RTX 3000 series.

You'll want a NVMe drive. They are pretty affordable these days. Grab at least 1TB. 

That should be all you need to run DCS well. It should last you 5 years or so too.

[derneuemann]

I would say, 3060ti sounds good. plus a cheap combination of R5 5600 and b550 board. 32GB RAM. you can continue to use the EVO SSD for the time being.so you're safe relatively well positioned. with this you could even face the task of virtual reality

[Beirut]

A 5600X is a great option. Pretty cheap, certainly good enough, and you save solid $$$ for other parts, mainly the GPU. And going from a 1050 to a 3060ti, you'll see yuuuuuuge improvements.

 

Great flying will ensue. 

[BitMaster]

Upgrade the GPU as far as your wallet allows BUT do not forget to buy more RAM as well, those 2 are mandatory.

Then, with the new GPU, minimum of 32GB RAM and MT in testing you can check how far your Ryzen carries you.

If you end up being highly CPU bottlenecked, which you might not be that much after all now, you can think about the 5600X or even 5800X3D if your board supports it.

Before you buy RAM and possibly a CPU, check your motherboard's manual and QVL to see if you get a Bios to support the X3D chip and what RAM will likely work out of the box.

For Ryzen, best is to get 3600MHz if possible, CL16 or lower. That will yield the best results. Check for RAM that is based on Samsung B-Die, those are ideal for your Ryzen.

Thinder is the guy to ask for investigating Ryzen and the depth of RAM § latency, he may chime in if you ask him.

But it might be that you can just get away with your CPU and not throttle the 3060ti too much.

 

A Ryzen 1300X is a 1st gen Ryzen, likely on a X370 chipset. There is reasonable doubt that your board supports a 5600X or even 5800X3D. Check that first before buying one !

Having the same AM4 across all those generations doesn't per se say it all works criss-cross, it doesn't.

*you should list mor of your hardware, so we can see if it may work or rather not.

Motherboard, Powersupply, desired resolution for gaming/monitor, are the main ones missing

Edited March 24, 2023 by BitMaster

[Thinder]

If you want people to give you relevant comment/s answers, you need to put your complete system stats in your signature.

As BitMaster  pointed out, we need to know: PSU wattage. Motherboard model and BIOS. Type of RAM (Frequency and CAS latency), this way we will be able to figure if your system is capable of supporting a Ryzen 3 or not, if your RAM is properly bounded to your CPU and if you have enough power output to feed the whole thing.

If you decide to stick with AMD and go for a Ryzen 3, the best upgrade available is a Cl14 B.Die RAM kit, the gain in performance is noticeable enough to equal a GPU water cooling Over Clocking, it will keep your CPU safer than OI.Cing it, keep your warranty, and it will remove the RAM-CPU bottleneck to keep it running at full throttle under load (4K).

If you're not planning to play at 4K, you don't need a B.Die kit, a good Cl16 will do.

The whole point is bandwidth, if your system doesn't push your CPU controller beyond a certain level, it will be able to manage the bandwidth without throttling down, and a Cl16 kit will be good enough, there is one catch tough, make sure you do not fit more than 4 ranks in your system, either 4 X 1 rank or 2 X 2 sticks, the Ryzen 3 controller won't manage more than that.

That's on you to do your home work and figure which RAM you want and how many ranks your RAM of choice has.

If your budget it limited, I can advise you on a very good mobo, the MSI B450 GAMING PLUS supports the 5600X and Cl14/3200 MHz RAM, the G.skill kit can also be O.Ced to 3600MHz, it was designed for the purpose so there is little risks doing it, such a combo will serve you well and the 5600X with good RAM is a good match for a 3080, only don't waste this combo with no a B.Die Cl16 RAM kit...

 

[Cunning_Raven]

Wow, I didn't get any notifications recently, thank you for the help, I'll try to figure all of my stats out!