womble Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Hi, I bought this game yesturday thinking i was buying an english version of this game, what i have bought is the russian version with english subtitles, this is not an "english" version so i would like to request a refund please. Id appreciate any further correspondance going though my email.
ZaltysZ Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Is interface in Russian? Or you have launched deployment campaign and found that friendlies speak in Russian? It is supposed to speak so, they are russians. Wir sehen uns in Walhalla.
nemises Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Hi Womble, Is the GUI (ie all the buttons, "options", "Campain" etc..) in English or Russian? If it is in English, then you have the english version. The campaign called "Deployment" has Russian voice / speech in it, but with the english translation as subtitles. Not forgetting that, as a realistic Sim, you are playing the role of a Russian aviator in the Russian army. There is no English voice version of the Deployment campain....hopefully this does not detract from any enjoyment you get from flying the campaign, as it is an EXCELLENT introduction into the game.
DTWD Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Womble, I suspect you have the English version, as if you managed to purchase the rusian version then your either: a) very lucky at jabbing buttons b) you followed a guide (in which case it should have been self evident what you were purchasing) c) something went wrong on the DCS site and you manage to download the wrong version If you are running the English version, and like people have said, the thing that makes you think it's russian is the Deployment campaign don't worry. Drop out of it, practice with the training and mission builders. Get used to the helecopter and by the time your ready to play the campaign our new voice over should be ready. Regards [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
lucky-hendrix Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 So english version has russian speechs that's great ! Will the upcomming western-DVD version also russian speeches ? I hope so , it's so immersive :thumbup:
Maj.Ballz Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Rosetta Stone has a great Russian Course that'll teach ya Russian in 4 weeks? :book: Tbi MEHA Ponemaesh? lol
RapidllBlade Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 As said by others you likely have the english version. If all your menus etc are in english it is the english version. .... or as ballz said you can learn to speak russian comrade :) RB
RapidllBlade Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 So english version has russian speechs that's great ! Will the upcomming western-DVD version also russian speeches ? I hope so , it's so immersive :thumbup: It not only has some russian language most of the voice overs are english with russian accents as well. RB
bumfire Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I tried to go buy the russian version after I purchased the english one and I cant even find it on the dcs website anymore, I knew where it was previously as it was for sale before the english version was released and I could clearly see it listed, but it is no longer available to me to buy or even to view. Basically the russian version is hidden from view on the dcs website for me now. Rosetta Stone FTMFW
womble Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 You guys may find it immersive that the voices are in russian, but i do not. A real rusian pilot UNDERSTANDS what his wing men are saying to him without needing to read subtitles!! Thats the bottem line for me, i cant play a game where everytime my team mates talk to me i have to pause the game and read a translation. Thats an imersion KILLER for me. My request for a refund stands
PoleCat Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Sorry to hear it. I think you are the first person to ask for a return for this reason. You will be missing out on the greatest simulation ever made for the PC. Personally I do not mind a few Russian voice overs at all. It adds to my immersion, because it is a Russian helicopter and the pilots speak Russian. Out Edited February 7, 2009 by PoleCat http://www.104thphoenix.com/
womble Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 I cant put it any clearer than i just have, reading subtitles is not imersive, real russian pilots dont read subtitles! its as simple as that. I dont care how good the simulation is if i cant understand my wing man then i cant play the game.
Vitesse2l Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Shame you can't get on with BS... I expect ED will be refunding you very soon.
soup55 Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Just bought it yesterday and into the campaign that quick? You are good dude! Too good for BS. Give the ace a refund. He obviously doesnot know what he is missing out on. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] SOUP55:matrix:
DTWD Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Thats the bottem line for me, i cant play a game where everytime my team mates talk to me i have to pause the game and read a translation. You never answered the question as to whether your menu's are in English or not, because my wingman (in the English version) talk in English, the same with the tower, maintenece etc. The ONLY thing that isn't in English are the voice overs embeded in the missions. Is this the case for you? I don't want you to make the mistake of dropping this title altogether if you have in fact just purchased the incorrect version. Regards [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
opformaster Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Well most of the time in the campaign your wingmen are just waxing poetic about the canals and the countryside so it not like your missing out on allot of tactical info. All the other voice messages regarding missile launches and their position are in Russian-accented English. -op4 Rig Specs: AMD FX-60 @ 2.6ghz - DFI Lanparty SLI UT - 4gb Mushkin Redline Ram - WD Raptor 300gb HDD - EVGA 260GTX 940mb - SoundBlaster something Live:P - Samsung 20.1" Syncmaster 204B (Camera) and Shuttle 17" xp17 (Abris & Shkval) Flight Controls: Franken Force CH 568/Logitech Wingman Force 3D Hybrid - CH Pro Throttle - Logitech Momo Wheel Conversion to FFB pedals - Belkin N52
womble Posted February 7, 2009 Author Posted February 7, 2009 Yes the menus are in english. And as far as im concerned there should be NO language in the game that i cant understand!
PoleCat Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 I cant put it any clearer than i just have, reading subtitles is not imersive, real russian pilots dont read subtitles! its as simple as that. I dont care how good the simulation is if i cant understand my wing man then i cant play the game. Yes I guess you should just give it up then. Sorry to see you go. Out http://www.104thphoenix.com/
Maj.Ballz Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) Dudes, womble sounds like hes a frustrated teen who wants his allowance back. :pain: Dacvidania Taveresh Edited February 7, 2009 by Maj.Ballz
bumfire Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 (edited) To be honest, I can see his point, I dont like the subtitles and I wish they were spoken in english with a russian accent just like the rest of the game as it is off putting that subtitles popup onscreen and you have to read them and sometimes you start reading them for them to change and you've only been able to catch the first line or so. Not as offputting for me to want a refund of the BEST helo sim on the market for years and probably for many more years to come, but offputting enough that I dont even bother trying to read those subs anymore. So to that end he has a point but saying that the main focus of this game isnt on those missions, its on multiplayer and your own home made missions, if you are willing (which I think you have already set your mind on getting a refund) then I and many others will easily hook up with you and fly online in an english speakin enviroment which is soo much more enjoyable than the single player missions as it helps you learn the sim and is a lot more enjoyable than single player, thats my opinion, others may think multi player is crap and single player is where its at, each to their own I say, but multi is where its at for me personally. Whatever you decide in the end then I wish you luck. Edited February 7, 2009 by bumfire
bumfire Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Dudes, womble sounds like hes a frustrated teen who wants his allowance back. :pain: Dacvidania Taveresh No need for that, if he feels that some part of the game is in a language he cant understand even though buying the english version then he is in his rights to get his cash back, although personally I think if he stuck with it he would probably come to like the sim alot, but because he finds a certain aspect not to his liking it doesnt mean he has to be a frustrated teen who wants his allowance back and even if he was its still his right to do so. Whether ed will grant him his wish is another matter entirely.
MBot Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 The movie The Hunt For Red October had some scenes with Russian languages and English subtitles and I doubt anyone has requested a refund for that... By the way, your wingman will always speak English with you, it is only the scripted voice messages in the Deployment campaign that are Russian. If it is so bothersome I would suggest to fly the Georgian Oil War campaign that shipped with the game, which does not have a word of Russian. Or perhaps some custom made mission of the community. My missions for example are all completely in English. Missions/Campaigns Directory
braden Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 The movie The Hunt For Red October had some scenes with Russian languages and English subtitles and I doubt anyone has requested a refund for that... Thats what i was wondering...if he/she is from an english speaking country and is watching a tv show/movie with an english soundtrack...does he/she take it back to blockbuster to complain if there's a line here or there in a foreign language but subtitled? Does he call up the tv station and complain? Demand refund of tv licence? :doh: Personally, i'm damn grateful that a Russian company has made an english version for us to play. After 3 weeks of owning it and damn well enjoying just learning to fly in free flight... i didn't even realise there was some russian language in the game. Buy yourself a tent with your refunded money, go run and hide in the middle of the forest somewhere where you can't hear any of them foreigners speak - 'cause they're coming to get YOU! Just my personal thoughts of course...since you decided to go public with this whinge. *kiss*
Maj.Ballz Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Braden, Im with you dude, I think the immersion is second to none. Having a Flight lead speak in Russian with Russian instruments in the cockpit, makes you think you're in a Russian helo unit. That's immersion. If someone cant divest the time to learn that about the greatest and most detailed sim to date, then they 1. Cant learn the material, 2. Probably fly it in arcade mode anyway
DTWD Posted February 7, 2009 Posted February 7, 2009 Lets chill chaps. He is entitled to a refund, the distance seller act (does that go as far as Russia?) says he does. I am sure ED will be more than happy to give him a refund, they aren't out to rob people. Althought quite why he posted instead of emailing I don't know. To Wombat, I think most people are just a little flabbergasted because it's like taking a cheap (but exceptionally made and good looking) car back because you don't like the colour of the floor mats. It's such a small part of an amazing game that if you would only give a chance you would probably enjoy. If it's something else that is causing you problems and your just blaming the VO then post it. Most people here would be more than happy to help you out. You probably don't realise but everyone playing this "game" is still a rookie and we are all still crashing. We are getting better, but it's a hard thing to learn and something even harder to master. And as I said before the Russian voice over is getting translated anyway. So other part of the game and when the translation is ready play the Deployment campaign. 1 Regards [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
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