reported Possible issues with GBU-24?

[Hippo]

The EA guide states:

Quote

CLAR Override. Normally, the bomb can only be released when the aircraft is inside the LAR. When this option
is boxed, the Weapon Release button is always hot, and post-release lasing is disabled. The CLAR Override option
is saved on a per-program basis.

1st issue:  in attached track gbu-24_01.trk, although it may not be evident I hold down the pickle button as soon as I am within the CLAR (dot has gone below top horizontal line) however the bomb doesn't drop until the dot gets down to the FPM / horizon line.  This would appear to be in disagreement with the above statement, or at least as I understand it.

2nd issue: so I try a slightly different approach in track gbu-24_02.trk.  This time I turn on CLAR OVR, and I can drop the bomb when I want to, so I drop it  as soon as I am within the CLAR, but this time the bomb misses completely and I am at a loss as to why.

I have tried this several times with the same result.

gbu-24_02..trkgbu-24_01..trk

EDIT:  immediately after posting I noticed (wrt 2nd issue)

"and post-release lasing is disabled".  Not entirely sure what's going on here, but now strongly suspect it's me doing something wrong.  Perhaps someone can advise?

2nd EDIT:  on further checking I'm guessing CLAR OVR is for when someone else is doing the lasing so your laser is deactivated?  So issue 2 is "correct as is" I suppose?

Edited May 1, 2023 by Hippo

[BIGNEWY]

Please lase immediately after pickle,

we do have a report open for this, hopefully once the immediate lase is sorted you will get better results. 

thank you 

[_SteelFalcon_]

1 hour ago, BIGNEWY said:

Please lase immediately after pickle,

we do have a report open for this, hopefully once the immediate lase is sorted you will get better results. 

thank you 

Immediately lasing contradicts probably the whole point of that bomb and does not reflect public information that can be found about this weapon. 

[Hippo]

21 hours ago, _SteelFalcon_ said:

Immediately lasing contradicts probably the whole point of that bomb and does not reflect public information that can be found about this weapon. 

Thank you both for replying.  I assume you are both referring to issue 2.  _SteelFalcon_, if you wouldn't mind, please could you expand on your statement?

My understanding of BN's post re immediate lasing is that it's only necessary as workaround to an existing bug.

Please correct my limited understanding of how these work:  once a point is designated the bomb is launched towards that point, the lasing is only needed at the end of the trajectory for final guidance.  What the point of CLAR OVR is somewhat eludes me.  Why would you want to launch outside of the LAR?  The bomb would then never be able to reach its target.  I can perhaps see why it might disable automatic lasing, which I assume is what the manual is referring to, if someone else is also lasing.

What about issue 1?  Sorry if I didn't explain myself correctly, but my understanding is that it should be possible to drop the bomb at any time once you are in the LAR.  It is not.  The bomb only drops once the dot passes through the FPM.

Edited May 3, 2023 by Hippo

[_SteelFalcon_]

I avoid the gbu-24 as long as it‘s working like a gbu 10 in general. if you do some research about the gbu-24 you‘ll find some articles stating that lasing it too early can result in the bomb landing way short of target. So the current bomb in dcs does not work correctly, if the only way to get it to work currently is lasing immediately.

 

i cant comment on issue 1 as i dont use the gbu-24 in dcs until it‘s working at least a bit like the real one

Edited May 3, 2023 by _SteelFalcon_