VirusAM Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 Pico 4 is on it's return. Not good enough, need something with a proper display port.Good luck on finding one...Hp Reverb G2 is the only one actual enough R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Realsimulator FFSB MKII Ultra, VKB Stecs Max, Winwing F-16EX Throttle, Winwing Orion (Skywalker) Pedals, Razer Tartarus V2 SpeedMaster Flight Seat, JetSeat
Lange_666 Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 Gonna put VR on hold for a while. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
dburne Posted May 31, 2023 Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, Lange_666 said: Gonna put VR on hold for a while. I could not even imagine doing that. Pretty sure at this point after the last few years if I could not fly in VR I just would no longer fly period. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Lange_666 Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 (edited) It's all about what's available and the investment to get a decent experience. Upgraded PC late last year, all fine then my Rift-S (probably the cable) died. Wanted a new headset really bad because i like VR for flying heli's. Went for the Pico4 because of the exciting reviews and tube video's ignoring the fact that some mentioned one needed a beefy PC. Mine (AMD 5800X3D, 3080Ti, 64GB Ram) turned out to not have enough beef to run the Pico4 to get a decent experience. Only at medium quality and with a streaming rate of around 80Mb/s i was able to keep the FPS high enough to not go below native 72Hz refresh rate. And then this only on simple missions. At this setting the visual quality is even less then the Rift-S. Going higher mend using ASW which only works with Virtual Desktop (Pico's Streaming Assistant has also such an option but that doesn't work). But since the interpolation frame is generated by the headset (as i did read), for me it created way to much ghosting on medium to far distance objects (close by is just fine, don't understand why). Also moving my head quickly resulted in the image not following fast enough in the corners resulting in brief black borders on the edge of the FOV. Horrible experience. The Rift-S ASW worked 10 times better. Having a VR session in Elite Dangerous yesterday closed the door on the Pico 4. Just rolling the space craft created double stars everywhere. Just not fun. I could have kept it until the next PC upgrade but it would lay there gathering dust most of the time until then and maybe by that time some more interesting headsets could enter the scene. Until then... Edited June 1, 2023 by Lange_666 1 Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Qcumber Posted June 1, 2023 Posted June 1, 2023 I've gone back to using my rift s for DCS as my hardware just doesn't quite give me the resolution-performance I need with the Pico 4. I can run it at low settings with good FPS and it's smooth but the image is very "fuzzy" so it's like playing in a cartoon. The rift s is much less demanding on my GPU and overall runs better, albeit at mainly low settings. In IL-2 the Pico performs really well with good resolution (high or ultra) and smooth gameplay. I want to get a new GPU and am planning to go for a 40xx series but I think it will need to be a 4070ti as a minimum for the Pico 4. Prices seem like they are coming down so I will watch and wait. 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
Lange_666 Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 On 6/1/2023 at 8:26 AM, Lange_666 said: I could have kept it until the next PC upgrade but it would lay there gathering dust most of the time until then and maybe by that time some more interesting headsets could enter the scene. Until then... Went onto the 2de hand scene to re-acquire a Rift-S. Back in business... Image quality is less but the performance and the smoothness is just way way better then the Pico 4. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S, Elgato Streamdeck XL. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance!
Qcumber Posted June 16, 2023 Posted June 16, 2023 2 hours ago, Lange_666 said: Went onto the 2de hand scene to re-acquire a Rift-S. Back in business... Image quality is less but the performance and the smoothness is just way way better then the Pico 4. I kept my rift s. I agree. For DCS it works really well. Great frame rates and really playable. It's frustrating because I get really good results with the Pico 4 on IL-2. I wonder if it's an openxr versus openvr thing!? 9800x3d - rtx5080 FE - 64Gb RAM 6000MHz - 2Tb NVME - Quest Pro (previous rift s and Pico 4). Afghanistan – Channel – Cold War Germany - Kola - Normandy 2 – Persian Gulf - Sinai - Syria - South Atlantic. BF-109 - FW-190 A8 - F4 - F5 - F14 - F16 - F86 - I16 - Mig 15 - Mig 21 - Mosquito - P47 - P51 - Spitfire.
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