Can not bind dedicated EAC on Thrustmaster throttle

[Moxica]

As title say; Double clicking on the assignment does nothing. It seem to be de-activated. HALP!   
 

[MAXsenna]

Can you show a screenshot of the controls settings window?
You do select the correct column for the Warthog I assume. I make that make all the time.

Cheers!

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[Moxica]

Here, Max!
Thank you
(Its the same for the HMCS)

Edited May 28, 2023 by Moxica

[MAXsenna]

Here, Max!
Thank you
(Its the same for the HMCS)

I'll be home in 30 minutes. But seems correct from what I can see.

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[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, Moxica said:

Here, Max!
Thank you
(Its the same for the HMCS)

 

 

Looks exactly the same for me. That's strange.
Have you tried from the main screen, without entering the module?

In any case, you have mapped it correctly.
Is your issue that the switch doesn't work in the game?
Did you do the cold start correctly? That's always my mistake.

[Moxica]

First try was after entering module.
Screenshot is from the main screen, as I just did it for this forum thread.
And I doublechecked just now; It is Disabled/greyed out/inactive.
Edit:
It worked on the A10A
But I can't assign engine start buttons either.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Moxica

[MAXsenna]

First try was after entering module.
Screenshot is from the main screen, as I just did it for this forum thread.
And I doublechecked just now; It is Disabled/greyed out/inactive.
Edit:
It worked on the A10A
But I can't assign engine start buttons either.

I believe you, but it's not greyed out in your screenshot. What happens if you right click?

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[Moxica]

But yes, there are four fields that are "greyed" out in that picture: Keyboard and joystick for the "EAC 2 pos..." and Throttle EAC arm on and off.
(They are merely a notch less brighter blue)
I have cleaned, slow repaired, just to find there are more of those:
APU start, Engine start.. plus a few more.
I have reset, and loaded default cathegories to no avail.
And nothing happens when I right-click.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Moxica

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, Moxica said:

But yes, there are four fields that are "greyed" out in that picture: Keyboard and joystick for the "EAC 2 pos..." and Throttle EAC arm on and off.
(They are merely a notch less brighter blue)
I have cleaned, slow repaired, just to find there are more of those:
APU start, Engine start.. plus a few more.
I have reset, and loaded default cathegories to no avail.
And nothing happens when I right-click.

 

This is correct, as that line is for the "Special for joystick" category.
Why you can't double click where you have already configured button 24, might be due to the fact that the Warthog comes preconfigured for the A-10C I/II modules.
I've heard this also affects the TM MDFs, and you have to delete the default joystick file to remove the bindings. Not that I understand why you'd want to, as everything should be set correctly by default.
The A-10A is an FC3 module and works completely different, as I know you know.

Cheers!

Edited May 28, 2023 by MAXsenna

[LeCuvier]

The command "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF" is available for the Warthog throttle, and when you double-click that binding field I'm sure the assignment window will open.
Cany ou confirm?

The command is not available for the keyboard for a good reason: It's a command that works only with a maintained ON/OFF switch, just like the EAC on the Warthog throttle. Keyboards and the Warthog joystick don't have such switches.
For the same reason it's not available with the CH-Pro pedals.
The commands "EAC Arm" and "EAC Off" are not available for the Warthog throttle because that device has the maintained ON/OFF switch for the EAC function.
Which command is available for which device is controlled by the files like "default.lua", "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua", "Joystick - HOTAS Warthog.lua".
The Warthog throttle and joystick are defined by their dedicated "....LUA" files. Game controllers that don't have a dedicated .LUA file can use all commands defined in the "default-lua" under "...\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\A-10C_2\Input\A-10C_2\joystick". The keyboard can only use the commands defined in the "defaultlua" under "...\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\A-10C_2\Input\A-10C_2\keyboard".

[MAXsenna]

10 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

The command "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF" is available for the Warthog throttle, and when you double-click that binding field I'm sure the assignment window will open.
Cany ou confirm?

The command is not available for the keyboard for a good reason: It's a command that works only with a maintained ON/OFF switch, just like the EAC on the Warthog throttle. Keyboards and the Warthog joystick don't have such switches.
For the same reason it's not available with the CH-Pro pedals.
The commands "EAC Arm" and "EAC Off" are not available for the Warthog throttle because that device has the maintained ON/OFF switch for the EAC function.
Which command is available for which device is controlled by the files like "default.lua", "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua", "Joystick - HOTAS Warthog.lua".
The Warthog throttle and joystick are defined by their dedicated "....LUA" files. Game controllers that don't have a dedicated .LUA file can use all commands defined in the "default-lua" under "...\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\A-10C_2\Input\A-10C_2\joystick". The keyboard can only use the commands defined in the "defaultlua" under "...\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\A-10C_2\Input\A-10C_2\keyboard".

Ah, of course, this makes also sense!

Cheers!

[Moxica]

Yes, the "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF" reacts to doubleclick.
But that function is not appropriate.
I would like to use button 24 and 24 off.
I do not understand any logic that will disable that?
..and the entire unit? Que?

:)

Edited May 28, 2023 by Moxica

[LeCuvier]

6 minutes ago, Moxica said:

Yes, the "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF" reacts to doubleclick.
But that function is not appropriate.
I would like to use button 24 and 24 off.
I do not understand any logic that will disable that?
..and the entire unit? Que?

 

Why is that function not appropriate? It's exactly the way it should be.

You could add the commands for ARM and OFF to the file "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua" and use Button 24 and Button 24 OFF. It would then do exactly the same thing as the existing command "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF". Seems pointless.

[Moxica]

2 hours ago, LeCuvier said:

The command is not available for the keyboard for a good reason: It's a command that works only with a maintained ON/OFF switch, just like the EAC on the Warthog throttle. Keyboards and the Warthog joystick don't have such switches.
For the same reason it's not available with the CH-Pro pedals.

I know. I was just pointing out how the "greyed out" is looking in the picture. Those fields are "greyed out" which is a Windows term. DCS does this with a different color nuance.

6 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

Why is that function not appropriate? It's exactly the way it should be.

You could add the commands for ARM and OFF to the file "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua" and use Button 24 and Button 24 OFF. It would then do exactly the same thing as the existing command "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF". Seems pointless.

Because I have to pull it down, and up again for it to work. "Up" represent both functions.
"Up" for arm, and "Down/Up again" to turn it off.
..or wait a minute.. Hmm.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Moxica

[Moxica]

Please move along. Nothing to see here.. [embarrassed smileyface]

I'll be..
I have been so excited about the relatively new on/off functionality, I was blind to that function.
Sorry for sending you on this wild goose chase, and thank so much for helping, and steering me towards this excellent solution.

Edited May 28, 2023 by Moxica

[MAXsenna]

Please move along. Nothing to see here.. [embarrassed smileyface]

I'll be..
I have been so excited about the relatively new on/off functionality, I was blind to that function.
Sorry for sending you on this wild goose chase, and thank so much for helping, and steering me towards this excellent solution.

No problem buddy!
Maybe I should have stressed more that your settings were actually correct.
Anyway, easy solutions are the best ones!

Cheers!

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[Arcc]

Good evening everyone. I bring out the A10C II and i have the problem mentionned here.

LeCuvier says

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The command "EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF" is available for the Warthog throttle, and when you double-click that binding field I'm sure the assignment window will open.

The two line are grey and i am not the line "special for joystick".

I have the Throttle Warthog thrusmaster. The other commands of the joystick work very well (APU, Flaps, RDR etc....).

One idea;

Have a nice day.

Christian

 

[LeCuvier]

12 minutes ago, Arcc said:

Good evening everyone. I bring out the A10C II and i have the problem mentionned here.

LeCuvier says

The two line are grey and i am not the line "special for joystick".

I have the Throttle Warthog thrusmaster. The other commands of the joystick work very well (APU, Flaps, RDR etc....).

One idea;

Have a nice day.

Christian

 

The line you need to use is under the category "Special For Joystick" (Whatever that may be in French).

[Arcc]

Thank you my friend. The problem is :

I don't have the EAC line in the categorie "special for joystick" 

Thanks again

Christian

[MAXsenna]

@Arcc Try to exit DCS, update it if you didn't already. When you're updating, go into Saved Games DCS, and find the controls input folder or something. Find the A-10C II folder and rename/delete it. The settings might have become corrupted.
When the update is done, and you enter the A-10C again, all the default settings for your Warthog should automatically be regenerated.

Cheers!

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[Arcc]

Hi Max

I tried your solution, but it doesn't work. I still don't have this command line.

It works with the mouse, i do like that for now.

Thank you

Christian

I will be able to try a repair

[Yurgon]

18 hours ago, Arcc said:

I don't have the EAC line in the categorie "special for joystick" 

That is weird.

Just to double check, when you enter the category "Search" and type "eac", it doesn't show up either, does it?

In that case, a DCS Repair from the launcher would indeed be a good idea.

If you are certain that you also deleted/renamed your Saved Games\DCS\Config\Input\A-10C II folder and it didn't change anything, I'm running out of ideas.

[LeCuvier]

19 hours ago, Arcc said:

Thank you my friend. The problem is :

I don't have the EAC line in the categorie "special for joystick" 

 

It seems that this line was omitted in the French version of the file "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua".
The best solution would be for the person who creates this French file to add the missing line. You can add it yourself but you will have to re-add it after each update.

The missing line is this:

{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN24'}}	, down = iCommandPlane_EAC_ARM     , up = iCommandPlane_EAC_OFF       , name = _('EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF') 			  , category = { _("Special For Joystick"), _('LASTE Control Panel')}},

PS: this kind of problem is why I don't use the German localization of DCS World or any other software, if I can help it. La VO est toujours la meilleure version!

Edited Thursday at 01:56 PM by LeCuvier

[MAXsenna]

8 minutes ago, LeCuvier said:

It seems that this line was omitted in the French version of the file "Throttle - HOTAS Warthog.lua".

I believe you're right. But I thought I saw it in his first screenshot, only that it was grayed out.

@Arcc We've seen this before with international versions of DCS, so I would recommend to change language to English, it's like 70% French anyway, (the rest is "German" and Norse).

36 minutes ago, Yurgon said:

That is weird.

It really is.  

Cheers! 

[Arcc]

Thank you all.

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The missing line is this:

The problem is that i do have this line in    mods\aircraft\A10C2\input\A10C2\joystick\....

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- Autopilot
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN26'}}    , down = iCommandPlaneAutopilot       , up = iCommandPlaneAutopilot      , name = _('LAAP Engage/Disengage')    , category = _('LASTE Control Panel')},
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN27'}}    , down = iCommandPlaneStabPathHold , up = iCommand_LASTE_from_PATH_to_ALTHDG, name = _('LAAP Mode 3-pos Switch : PATH <> ALT/HDG'), category = { _("Special For Joystick"), _('LASTE Control Panel')}},
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN28'}}    , down = iCommandPlaneStabHbarBank , up = iCommand_LASTE_from_ALT_to_ALTHDG , name = _('LAAP Mode 3-pos Switch : ALT <> ALT/HDG') , category = { _("Special For Joystick"), _('LASTE Control Panel')}},
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN24'}}    , down = iCommandPlane_EAC_ARM     , up = iCommandPlane_EAC_OFF       , name = _('EAC 2-pos Switch : ARM<>OFF')               , category = { _("Special For Joystick"), _('LASTE Control Panel')}},
{combos = {{key = 'JOY_BTN25'}}    , down = iCommandPlane_RDR_ALTM_NRM, up = iCommandPlane_RDR_ALTM_DIS  , name = _('RDR ALTM 2-pos Switch : NORMAL<>DISABLE')  , category = { _("Special For Joystick"), _('LASTE Control Panel')}},

Strange strange.

I am going to retake my DCS in English

Christian

Edited Thursday at 02:41 PM by Arcc