Wiggo Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 1 hour ago, deep said: Good question: does anyone know if it's standard procedure to switch to CAT I after an emergency jettison? I don't see it documented anywhere. Yup. Dunno if its done IRL, but with logic in game it should help manouvering the aircraft. BTW. If I have like two mavs and two 500lbs bombs but none tanks, should I still Use CAT III ? Do I ALWAYS use CAT III with A/G payloads, where there tanks or not...?
Falconeer Posted August 18, 2023 Posted August 18, 2023 3 hours ago, deep said: Good question: does anyone know if it's standard procedure to switch to CAT I after an emergency jettison? I don't see it documented anywhere. Yes, because you'll get a caution light as soon as you press the jettison button 2 hours ago, Wiggo said: Yup. Dunno if its done IRL, but with logic in game it should help manouvering the aircraft. BTW. If I have like two mavs and two 500lbs bombs but none tanks, should I still Use CAT III ? Do I ALWAYS use CAT III with A/G payloads, where there tanks or not...? Only A/A missiles and center line tank are considered CAT I Any A/G stores and wing tanks are considered CAT III 1 2 Planes: Choppers: Maps: Flaming Cliffs 3 Black Shark 2 Syria A-10C Tank killer 2 Black Shark 3 Persian Gulf F/A18C Hornet AH-64 Apache Mariana's F-16C Viper Afghanistan F-15E Strike Eagle Kola Peninsula Mirage 2000C AJS-37 Viggen JF-17 Thunder F-14 Tomcat F-4E Phantom
Tenkom Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 On 8/18/2023 at 8:40 PM, Falconeer said: Yes, because you'll get a caution light as soon as you press the jettison button Only A/A missiles and center line tank are considered CAT I Any A/G stores and wing tanks are considered CAT III Would empty wing tanks also be considered CAT 3? I would imagine they only weigh a fraction of a full tank so pulling g's shouldn't put significant strain on any part of the structure.
Theodore42 Posted August 21, 2023 Posted August 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Tenkom said: Would empty wing tanks also be considered CAT 3? I would imagine they only weigh a fraction of a full tank so pulling g's shouldn't put significant strain on any part of the structure. https://youtu.be/E_HUrfQqUmA?list=PLCJZqEzsF9_owrrr1KUhyInlDs9od6kPt&t=569 Hazard Lee youTube of a dogfight. The pilot says that he has about 400 pounds to go before unlimited G restriction. He has on 2 wing tanks, 2 AMRAMMS, 1 sidewinder, and all pylons. 1
Tenkom Posted August 22, 2023 Posted August 22, 2023 15 hours ago, Theodore42 said: https://youtu.be/E_HUrfQqUmA?list=PLCJZqEzsF9_owrrr1KUhyInlDs9od6kPt&t=569 Hazard Lee youTube of a dogfight. The pilot says that he has about 400 pounds to go before unlimited G restriction. He has on 2 wing tanks, 2 AMRAMMS, 1 sidewinder, and all pylons. Thanks for that. Very interesting. Although CAT3 doesn't limit the Gs. 1
Theodore42 Posted August 23, 2023 Posted August 23, 2023 On 8/22/2023 at 10:00 AM, Tenkom said: Thanks for that. Very interesting. Although CAT3 doesn't limit the Gs. They might still be in CAT III, or at least none of the maneuvers looked like they needed to be in CAT I. And for all I know "unrestricted Gs" might mean SOP is that maximum Gs in training is 8Gs or 9Gs and not "Whatever max stick deflection gets you" Gs.. Also the sudden onset of Gs in CAT I might be too dangerous with stores so SOP might be to always be in CAT III with stores. FURTHER, any of those assumptions may only be true in training. And he's a test pilot so his squadron might have unique ideas about what's safe to do to the airframe. I've never seen any documented guidance on the matter and it seems others haven't either, so infer what you will from the video. But unless there is a SAFTY issue with CAT I and empty wing tanks, I assume from the video that if you're simulating combat in DCS and your wing tanks are empty, go nuts with CAT I.
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