Consistent Aircraft Spotting

[Willoughby888]

With the implementation of MT, many more players will be able to up their settings and experience the detailed, realistic, shimmer-free graphics this game is capable of. I know I was and, for a while, I flew in VR with unbelievably immersive cockpits and landscapes. But then I had to turn everything down again to a fuzzy, pixelated mess because, at the higher resolution, I simply had no chance of spotting other aircraft. So much of the work done on the game, including MT, will have limited benefit as long as players have to choose between better graphics or competitive spotting. Please fix this.

14/04/2024 - Guess what? It’s fixed. The spotting as currently implemented works for me in VR at hi-res. Thanks

Edited April 14 by Willoughby888
Improvment seen!

[SharpeXB]

There is a fix for this in the works. Something along the lines of adopting this mod into the game

 

[BIGNEWY]

Spotting changes are currently being tested internally, but you will need to be patient. 

thanks

[Blackhawk NC]

Then why isn't the mod allowed to pass IC until you fix it? That makes no sense....those at 1080 can see just fine...1440 and 4k blind as can be until it is too late....does that make any kind of sense to you at ED? Everyone here knows that "we're working on it" from ED means it will take months or years to be fixed. Won't be holding my breath until you release "a fix".

[SharpeXB]

19 minutes ago, Blackhawk NC said:

Then why isn't the mod allowed to pass IC until you fix it? That makes no sense....those at 1080 can see just fine...1440 and 4k blind as can be until it is too late....does that make any kind of sense to you at ED? Everyone here knows that "we're working on it" from ED means it will take months or years to be fixed. Won't be holding my breath until you release "a fix".

Because:

- Modding your game to affect visibility is basically cheating.

- That mod can probably be user altered to make your opponent’s aircraft appear like big orange dots or whatever. 

- Having that folder uncontrolled by the IC probably allows all sorts of other cheats and exploits. 
 

Any solution for visibility needs to be included in the game and unalterable by the players. 

[Blackhawk NC]

SharpeXB ......... I bet you fly at 1080 or in VR........     I bet you see the dots at 1080 or lower resolution so this mod doesn't affect you much. And I haven't heard of any changes to this mod to make the aircraft appear as "BIG ORANGE DOTS OR WHATEVER". And flying at a lower res than your monitor so you can see aircraft is NOT cheating, right? ED is being silly and avoiding responsibility for something they should have fixed years ago when higher resolution monitors became very common. This problem has been here for YEARS! still no solution.....  Kinda like the AAMRAM model and the sd-10 model  and the r-77 model and the F-16 and the F-18. They almost never finish anything. 10 years from now the F-15E will still be unfinished. They have no peer competition to pressure performance AND we continue to buy half finished modules. We are partly responsible for the way they act.... sorry about the rant!

[SharpeXB]

1 hour ago, Blackhawk NC said:

SharpeXB ......... I bet you fly at 1080 or in VR........     I bet you see the dots at 1080 or lower resolution so this mod doesn't affect you much. And I haven't heard of any changes to this mod to make the aircraft appear as "BIG ORANGE DOTS OR WHATEVER". And flying at a lower res than your monitor so you can see aircraft is NOT cheating, right? ED is being silly and avoiding responsibility for something they should have fixed years ago when higher resolution monitors became very common. This problem has been here for YEARS! still no solution.....  Kinda like the AAMRAM model and the sd-10 model  and the r-77 model and the F-16 and the F-18. They almost never finish anything. 10 years from now the F-15E will still be unfinished. They have no peer competition to pressure performance AND we continue to buy half finished modules. We are partly responsible for the way they act.... sorry about the rant!

No I use a 4K monitor. And yeah pretty sure the mod was hackable because it was a mod. 

[wheelie]

Never really understood this spotting issue, played in 4k in 2d and now play exclusively in VR with the Varjo Aero.

The 1 to 1 representation within VR especially at high resolution makes spotting pretty easy for me at least.

[Pavlin_33]

On 7/7/2023 at 4:28 PM, Blackhawk NC said:

Then why isn't the mod allowed to pass IC until you fix it? That makes no sense....those at 1080 can see just fine...1440 and 4k blind as can be until it is too late....does that make any kind of sense to you at ED? Everyone here knows that "we're working on it" from ED means it will take months or years to be fixed. Won't be holding my breath until you release "a fix".

I have 1080 screen and I can't see squat beyond 3-5km.

Edited July 23, 2023 by Pavlin_33
My English, not the goodest.

[MadKreator]

I’ve always run a 1440 monitor, ultrawide now (5120x1440, even worse support for everything DCS) and I’ve never seen an aircraft “spot” until the plane actually starts rendering. I thought thats just how it was until I saw the uproar about it and switched dcs over to my 1080p monitor for fun. Now that in itself feels like cheating, being able to see black blobs all over the screen for aircraft in the distance,  in comparison to my dcs lifetime experienceI suppose the size of screen plays an important role too. A 4K 27” screen would be much, much harder to see( spotting)  than a 65” 4K just due to sheer pixel size. Seems like its definitely  not a quick easy fix. The Mod- Great idea. Abusable? Most likely. As said before, that sad fact is ED has a bad habit of starting things, then starting something else, then another thing. A lot of things get left on the shelf and never fixed or finished. The “New” FLIR for example. I like the direction they headed with it, almost complete( assuming). Then when there were a few models/objects/vehicles to finish up rendering properly, they seem to have moved on and haven’t touched on it for a year or more. Baffling at times, but doesn’t stop me from playing almost daily. 

[SharpeXB]

What’s funny about the mod is at least the maker was nice enough to make it public and not just keep the advantage for himself

Who know how many other cheats were running around with that ability before… amazing that such things weren’t locked down in DCS all along. 

Edited July 18, 2023 by SharpeXB