Full fidelity F-15C?

[The_Chugster]

So now we have a full fidelity variant in the E I was wondering how hard would it be for ED to use this module to make the C full fidelity?

Surely they have like 90% of the needed info from the E?

[MAXsenna]

So now we have a full fidelity variant in the E I was wondering how hard would it be for ED to use this module to make the C full fidelity?
Surely they have like 90% of the needed info from the E?

Razbam, not ED, made the E.
The C is on many people's wishlist. I'm sure it will arrive at some point.

Cheers!

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[draconus]

ED does not take anything from 3rd party modules. And depending on the C version chosen it's not even near 90% unless you talk about external model only.

[Njinsa]

Wags shared some valuable insight in recent Youtube video.

Basically, 4th gen birds are almost done.

Eurofighter is last one in development with Grippen and Rafale falling short of unclassified docs.

Russian platforms not allowed, especially after 2022 events in Ukraine.

Focus to shift on stuff like century class platforms.

 

Personally, I rather put my money on F-15E getting CFT off option until 2030 than ED ever resurrecting C model as FF.

 

[Pavlin_33]

On 9/1/2023 at 11:00 AM, Njinsa said:

 

Personally, I rather put my money on F-15E getting CFT off option until 2030 than ED ever resurrecting C model as FF.

 

The developers don't have performance data with CFTs off.

[Njinsa]

Disagree, it's not a military grade 6DOF sim pit.

They already might have enough data from -1 manual, they can extrapolate a lot with E clean configs and C combat loadouts from respective -1 manual. 

Only serious drawback is lack of SME insights which could validate the FM general behaviour, but that's of the reasons why I wrote 'until 2030'.

If there will be real training/cap sorties involving slim Mudhens while DCS F-15E gets all planned EA and CTU toys, nothing is impossible.

 

It's just not worth (for most of us and developers) more than a thought now and for some close future. 

People asking for it are usually not interested in F-15E and have a big skill issue using that platform as it's supposed.

Their loss.

[BanagherLinks]

On 9/2/2023 at 1:21 PM, Njinsa said:

Disagree, it's not a military grade 6DOF sim pit.

They already might have enough data from -1 manual, they can extrapolate a lot with E clean configs and C combat loadouts from respective -1 manual. 

Only serious drawback is lack of SME insights which could validate the FM general behaviour, but that's of the reasons why I wrote 'until 2030'.

If there will be real training/cap sorties involving slim Mudhens while DCS F-15E gets all planned EA and CTU toys, nothing is impossible.

 

It's just not worth (for most of us and developers) more than a thought now and for some close future. 

People asking for it are usually not interested in F-15E and have a big skill issue using that platform as it's supposed.

Their loss.

Three A-10 Variant are living together, A-10A FC3, A-10C and A-10C II... On top of it, it's kind of a one trick pony. A/Awise, Typhoon will also be a One Trick Pony with limited A/G Capabilities. Both these two aircrafts legitimate an F-15C FF... There will be two variant living together and it'll be a one trick pony (with limited A/G capabilities!...)

[draconus]

I wouldn't call air superiority, intercept, sweep, escort, ambush, defense, CAP missions capability with great performance in both BVR and WVR just a one trick even without mentioning limited A2G.

Edited October 20, 2023 by draconus

[Njinsa]

Maybe we should listen how ED, Wags specifically, see actual DCS moment and what are key platform vectors for future.

This was cast with Mover, July 2023 so it's by all means relevant.

Skip to 27:00, that's the moment when he expose 4th Gen air FF remaining potential.

The rest of show is also very interesting as it discover realistic standpoint to platforms like F-14D, Gripen etc.

My takeaway from this is that ED alone is almost finished with 4th gen air, focusing on ground war refactoring, maps, performance/engine and AI.

Maybe they take a bite and put a tag on Gripen if SAAB is really in the game.

 

[JUICE-AWG]

Here's my dream...

Edited April 15, 2024 by JUICE-AWG

[Exorcet]

The F-15 is still a high priority on my wanted list. Whether there are other 4th gen aircraft or not doesn't diminish the desire for a specific airframe. With DCS being full fidelity, specific aircraft and the fine differences between them are the point.

[draconus]

1 hour ago, JUICE-AWG said:

Here's my dream...

Well OK, but why "by Razbam" (very unpopular atm) and why only "model" (3D gfx model)? We ask for the whole FF DCS module here

[JUICE-AWG]

On 4/14/2024 at 11:17 PM, draconus said:

Well OK, but why "by Razbam" (very unpopular atm) and why only "model" (3D gfx model)? We ask for the whole FF DCS module here

Sorry, I was inferring Full FIdelity!  Friends don't let friends fly FC3? 

[plott1964]

Most friends start with FC3!