No Acquire with L Hellfires

[McGraw]

Never had much of an issue before.

PErfectly lined up, in range. Just get no acquire even though I'm tracking the moving tank

If I fire sometimes they hit anyway

ACQ is FXD, tried SKR too

Anything I'm missing?

 

[Floyd1212]

You are talking about getting target data for a Lima prior to launch?

Do you see the TARGET DATA? prompt at the bottom left?  If not, de-WAS missiles and WAS again to start over.  You may have data stored from a previous spot you were lasing.

Your ACQ source doesn't matter in this situation.  And whether they hit or not is a totally different question.

[McGraw]

21 minutes ago, Floyd1212 said:

You are talking about getting target data for a Lima prior to launch?

Do you see the TARGET DATA? prompt at the bottom left?  If not, de-WAS missiles and WAS again to start over.  You may have data stored from a previous spot you were lasing.

Your ACQ source doesn't matter in this situation.  And whether they hit or not is a totally different question.

Thanks it does seem to work again be re WAS ing

 

[DmitriKozlowsky]

I guess I need to understand something basic for DCS: Apache. How are we even able to use Lima radar version without FCR? How is George targeting? Becouse in sim, he reports LASING/LASER OFF for Lima. But Lima is radar guided fire and forget. It works in DCS, as far as AGM-114L is hitting targets. Though it is not very effective against small surface combatants, but still it hits. Decent for short range SEAD. For me, pilot seat, FCR page is blank. So George has access to FCR, when mounted, behind the scenes? Modern tactics call for 1 FCR equipped Aache to feed targets to 2-3 non FCR equipped Apaches. A linebacker Apache. I suppouse this is all WIP at ED.

Apache E Guardian is new and all sorts of classified, able to control drones and loitering munitions. So I don't expect DCS to have GuardianE for next 20 years.

Wiki page for Hellfire lists all sorts of variants and subvariants. Most interesting are N variant for anti-surface and anti-pers with thermobaric warhead.

 

Sidenote. Apache should not have DCS standard low light NVG. Yet we do. Apache has PNVS for its night vision.

[Hobel]

vor 3 Stunden schrieb DmitriKozlowsky:

I guess I need to understand something basic for DCS: Apache. How are we even able to use Lima radar version without FCR? How is George targeting? Becouse in sim, he reports LASING/LASER OFF for Lima. But Lima is radar guided fire and forget. It works in DCS, as far as AGM-114L is hitting targets. Though it is not very effective against small surface combatants, but still it hits. Decent for short range SEAD. For me, pilot seat, FCR page is blank. So George has access to FCR, when mounted, behind the scenes? Modern tactics call for 1 FCR equipped Aache to feed targets to 2-3 non FCR equipped Apaches. A linebacker Apache. I suppouse this is all WIP at ED.

Apache E Guardian is new and all sorts of classified, able to control drones and loitering munitions. So I don't expect DCS to have GuardianE for next 20 years.

Wiki page for Hellfire lists all sorts of variants and subvariants. Most interesting are N variant for anti-surface and anti-pers with thermobaric warhead.

 

Sidenote. Apache should not have DCS standard low light NVG. Yet we do. Apache has PNVS for its night vision.

in short

With the help of the laser, you determine exact coordinates that are passed on to the Helffire. After shoot, the helffire flies independently in this area and searches for the target there.

but with the FCR, this will function even better/faster.

Edited September 18, 2023 by Hobel

[Raptor9]

7 hours ago, DmitriKozlowsky said:

I guess I need to understand something basic for DCS: Apache. How are we even able to use Lima radar version without FCR?

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But Lima is radar guided fire and forget.

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For me, pilot seat, FCR page is blank. So George has access to FCR, when mounted, behind the scenes?

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Sidenote. Apache should not have DCS standard low light NVG. Yet we do. Apache has PNVS for its night vision.

@DmitriKozlowsky As has been stated many times, everything you are confused about is in the manual. Many of these basic concepts are easily explained in it.

The AGM-114L does not require the FCR for employment. George does not have access to the FCR, he is using the TADS. The FCR is not implemented yet.

As for night vision goggles, AH-64 crews have been using NVGs for decades, in addition to their FLIR systems in the PNVS and TADS, Including in the era that is being simulated by DCS AH-64D.

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You are mistaken with all of your assertions and assumptions.

[DmitriKozlowsky]

Alright. Sounds good. Thank you for schooling.

[martinistripes]

On 9/18/2023 at 2:11 PM, Raptor9 said:

@DmitriKozlowsky As has been stated many times, everything you are confused about is in the manual. Many of these basic concepts are easily explained in it.

The AGM-114L does not require the FCR for employment. George does not have access to the FCR, he is using the TADS. The FCR is not implemented yet.

As for night vision goggles, AH-64 crews have been using NVGs for decades, in addition to their FLIR systems in the PNVS and TADS, Including in the era that is being simulated by DCS AH-64D.

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You are mistaken with all of your assertions and assumptions.

I didn't even realise I had access to NVGs in the Apache. I've been using the PNVS to fly at night, which is a bit laggy and takes a bit of getting used to with the offset from your actual eyeballs. Which is more commonly used IRL by the pilot? In what situations would you switch between the two systems?

[TheGhostOfDefi]

11 hours ago, martinistripes said:

I didn't even realise I had access to NVGs in the Apache. I've been using the PNVS to fly at night, which is a bit laggy and takes a bit of getting used to with the offset from your actual eyeballs. Which is more commonly used IRL by the pilot? In what situations would you switch between the two systems?

Commonly user is the PNVS die the Pilot and the NVG for the CPG. (Sure the CPG uses the TADS as PNVS too) The purpose of that is to have a higher spectrum of things getting seen and round off the perception.
Even though this may changes by personal preferences. 
PNVS instead of NVG does show instrument data. 

[bradmick]

The primary system to be used during flight is the NVS. NVGs are a backup.