Combat Flaps

[markturner1960]

Hi as title, Combat Flaps - We have 2 bindable controls, combat flap lever and combat flap button.

Please can someone explain the difference, when and how to use them ( In combat I guess.......?) and why there are 2 different controls? 

I have looked in the manual but could find anything under flight controls, before anyone suggests I am being lazy..........

[Hunter Joker]

Combat Flaps Button put them OUT, the Lever put they IN.
Making a premise that I'm not considering me an expert pilot and so probably I will be denied by more expert people who will read and write later, here is my (little) experience on how and when use it.
So, when use it? As soon as the speed drop to 300 or less and I'm involved in a turn fight I deply them to achieve more AOA without loosing too much speed.
As the AOA indicator show, if You are pulling between red and yellow zone of AOA, deploying the combat flaps will let pull the same AOA but in the yellow zone, pheraps near the start of the green one. Because with combat flaps regaining speed is extremely difficult, as soon as You need to regain speed sacrificing a better alpha You need to take IN again.

[average_pilot]

Not an expert either, more like average  ...or even below average to be honest.

The colors of the AoA indicator are always the same for the same AoA ranges. What you achieve with flaps is getting the same lift out of your wings with less AoA, or more lift for the same AoA.

[chichowalker]

Hi as title, Combat Flaps - We have 2 bindable controls, combat flap lever and combat flap button.
Please can someone explain the difference, when and how to use them ( In combat I guess.......?) and why there are 2 different controls? 
I have looked in the manual but could find anything under flight controls, before anyone suggests I am being lazy..........

Due to throttle design, in order to extend combat flaps, you have to push a single button, but in order to retract them, you have to push a lever that goes away when you push the button to deploy it ...

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[Hunter Joker]

Not an expert either, more like average  ...or even below average to be honest.
The colors of the AoA indicator are always the same for the same AoA ranges. What you achieve with flaps is getting the same lift out of your wings with less AoA, or more lift for the same AoA.

What I'm trying to tell (using my bad English) was not that the color change, but the relative AOA so You can pull more or go with same pull but lower angle. Sorry, I really need to get back to school and study English again

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[Hiob]

3 hours ago, average_pilot said:

Not an expert either, more like average  ...or even below average to be honest.

The colors of the AoA indicator are always the same for the same AoA ranges. What you achieve with flaps is getting the same lift out of your wings with less AoA, or more lift for the same AoA.

I think the confusion stems from the fact that there are two different AoAs. One is the AoA of the whole Aircraft (which includes of course the wings). This AoA is measured by sensors usually around the nose of the aircraft, and is reported to any AoA indexer in the cockpit.

The other AoA is that of the Chord Line of the wings. That is of course connected to the body of the aircraft. But the AoA of the wing (relative to the fuselage) can be changed by lowering the flaps. Which gives more lift and more drag for a given speed and attitude.

(And in a steep turn, the lift vector is pointing towards the center of the circle and addtional lift helps with the turn radius for a given speed)

Edited October 30, 2023 by Hiob

[markturner1960]

Thanks guys, its clear now!!

[Nealius]

On the subject of combat flaps, what's the difference between them and the half-flap position on the flap lever? Or rather, why do we have two separate methods to deploy the same flap setting? 

[Bremspropeller]

Combat flaps will retract automaticly when going beyond the speed-limit, manual flaps won't.

Edited November 2, 2023 by Bremspropeller

[Nealius]

24 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

Combat flaps will retract automaticly when going beyond the speed-limit, manual flaps won't.

 

Is half flaps used for anything other than combat/maneuvering? I may be misremembering but I thought both takeoffs and landings are done with full flaps. 

[Iron Sights]

Only thing I use half flaps for is approach. As I slow, I step to half first to maintain a bit more speed and when turning to final, put them to full. Not sure if that is the correct way, but it seems to help.