noob autopilot question

[blade782]

hey guys im new to blackshark, im getting pretty good at it tho, however just wodering about this, everytime i start a mission in bs, my altitude, pitch and bank holds are always on, so my question is, do you guys always fly with those 3 on, or turn them all off, and which is better?

[deadsmell]

leave them on, and hope they stay on. they are there to help you, and in real life, the pilots are REQUIRED to fly with them on.

Edited March 25, 2009 by deadsmell

[159th_Viper]

...however just wodering about this, everytime i start a mission in bs, my altitude, pitch and bank holds are always on, so my question is, do you guys always fly with those 3 on, or turn them all off, and which is better?

 

You mean your Pitch, Bank and Lateral Dampener are on - The Altitude Hold should be Off, unless Auto-hover has been engaged. Once AH disengaged also best to toggle the Altitude Hold Off as well.

 

And yeah - as deadsmell correctly stated: Leave them On ;)

[blade782]

ok thx, whats the auto-hover mode?? is that the button the says baro/ralt altitude hold mode in the discription? also when i use the cyclic or the collective, those auto pilot modes automatically disengage? and when i let go of the cyclic and collective do they automatically engage them selfs back?

[159th_Viper]

ok thx, whats the auto-hover mode??

 

Pg 2-6 of the Manual. Button present on the Cyclic which puts you in a 'Relatively' stable Hover, depending on your craft's attitude immediately prior to engaging said mode. Useful when you want to 'Pop-Up' and Attack from Cover, for example.

 

also when i use the cyclic or the collective, those auto pilot modes automatically disengage? and when i let go of the cyclic and collective do they automatically engage them selfs back?

 

No - they will always be on, unless you disengage them manually or *Heaven Forbid* you put so much stress on the AP that they disengage.......and then you're in for a Jolly Good Ride :D

[blade782]

thnx alot

[lion737]

I leave the heading stab off. Otherwise you have to click the trim after every turn, or the AP is trying to turn you back. And you can fly the turns more coordinated. Before you want to use ´turn on target´ you have to switch heading on again.

 

PS: real pilots have to fly without AP perfect, before they may switch it on. I recommend that procedure as well with the sim.

Edited March 26, 2009 by lion737

[connos]

hey guys im new to blackshark, im getting pretty good at it tho, however just wodering about this, everytime i start a mission in bs, my altitude, pitch and bank holds are always on, so my question is, do you guys always fly with those 3 on, or turn them all off, and which is better?

 

All AP on and I Trim often.

[BTTW-DratsaB]

PS: real pilots have to fly without AP perfect, before they may switch it on. I recommend that procedure as well with the sim.

 

From the way the producers and testers talk about the KA50 I would think that is not true for this helo. These channels cause confusion imo because they are called "auto pilot", when they are more like stabilization assistance. I'm sure the real pilots are already with familiar with the pure stick & rudder feel for a helicopter from the previous helicopters or trainers they have flown. So I don't think they would learn the KA50 with these channels switched off. In fact I don't think they are allowed to. I guess it would be the equivalent of Euro Fighter pilots trying to learn with out the computer assistance, they would never do this.

 

For me, these channels are stabilization and I fly with all of them on all the time. Autopilot for me in the KA50 is the RouteMode.

[GGTharos]

^^^^

 

QFT. You're not even allowed to take off with the channels off or INOP.

 

PS: Real pilots have to fly with the AP effect AND they have to trim often. ;)

[connos]

^^^^

 

QFT. You're not even allowed to take off with the channels off or INOP.

 

PS: Real pilots have to fly with the AP effect AND they have to trim often. ;)

 

So I am a real pilot then. :smilewink:

[GGTharos]

There you go ;)

[EtherealN]

I'm so going to have to fly without AP channels on sometime. It's starting to be like that forbidden fruit you just have to get a taste of. :D

 

Fortunately the sim doesn't include a CO that can court-martial my ass for it. :P

[GGTharos]

It's fun for sure, and a bit different ... it's just not what you should be doing if you want to use this simulation for pretending you're a real Ka-50 pilot :)

[Distiler]

What about flight director, are real pilots allowed to use it? (not counting air shows)

[GGTharos]

Sure they are - the idea is that you may only turn off the stabilization channels in an emergency. With the FD your stabilization/damping is still there.

[Distiler]

I've never quite understood FD mode really even after reading manuals and forums. When I switch FD is similar as not having it active and switching off HDG and ALT dampeners. I don't quite understand what FD does, but it seems to switch off some kind of "stabilizator" (be those blue button stabilizators or another ones).

[ericinexile]

The FD disables the stab channels while keeping the dampening functions active (and still requires copious trim). A few players (notice I don't say "pilots") like me prefer the FD function as it gives the player the sense that HE is flying the HELO not the other way around. Typically in combat, I bring the helo into a stable hover, disengage the FD, and engage the auto-hover when I want a stable platform from which to search and destroy. When that's done the FD comes back on and we're off to the races.

 

Smokin' Hole

 

ps-The Flight Director gets it's name from the secondary function of placing command bars on the HUD which direct the pilot to do what the Autopilot would be doing with the FD off.

Edited March 26, 2009 by ericinexile

[Distiler]

The FD disables the stab channels while keeping the dampening functions active (and still requires copious trim).

 

I think I mix up those "stabilizator channels" and "dampening functions". Aren't those the same? (I mean, the blue buttons)

[GGTharos]

No. The blue buttons provide dampening and autopilot hold modes. The Flight director basically turns the AP hold modes off.