need evidence DED does not return to its previous state

[Silver_]

Situation:     When I change the C&I selector to backup to communicate (transmit) through the guard channel previously selected on the switch indicated with the red arrow, the DED, as normal, shows me the guard frequency (previously I had a preset set in for example, channel 8). When I go back to normal mode (C&I to UFC) the preset I had disappears and instead of showing me channel 8, the DED continues to show me the guard frequency. I understand that this should not be like this.

Please correct it. Thank you.

[Lord Vader]

Hello @Silver_

I'm a bit confused with what you're trying to convey here. 

If you have publicly available information that states the radio should retain the last tuned frequency/preset when switching C&I, please send this reference to @BIGNEWY.

[Silver_]

What I want to tell you is that in UFC mode (C&I switch) you use one radio and in Backup mode you use another (emergency radio, normally the one preselected with the switches on the left panel). When you change to UFC, the UFC presintonized configuration of tuning/channel must remain in the radio and when you change to Backup, the radio presintonized (in lateral panel) configuration tunning/channel must remain in backup, I think it is simple to understand. This does not happen in your current software.

Edited December 19, 2023 by Silver_

[BIGNEWY]

1 hour ago, Silver_ said:

What I want to tell you is that in UFC mode (C&I switch) you use one radio and in Backup mode you use another (emergency radio, normally the one preselected with the switches on the left panel). When you change to UFC, the UFC presintonized configuration of tuning/channel must remain in the radio and when you change to Backup, the radio presintonized (in lateral panel) configuration tunning/channel must remain in backup, I think it is simple to understand. This does not happen in your current software.

 

Hi, 

we understand what you are saying but we will need evidence before any potential change can be considered. 

thank you

[Silver_]

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My evidence is that of working with electronic radio equipment all my life and that does not follow any logic.

 

Edited December 19, 2023 by Silver_

[BIGNEWY]

2 minutes ago, Silver_ said:

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My evidence is that of working with electronic radio equipment all my life and that does not follow any logic.

 

 

Understood, but we can not make any change without evidence that the logic should work that way in the aircraft. 

If you do have unclassified evidence of this feel free to PM me. 

thank you

[Moonshine]

not sure why you are using the backup radio just to use guard to transmit, you can do that in normal operations by setting the respective radio switch to guard instead of squelch

upon returning the switch back to squelch, you are back to the frequency you have previously had selected as either your UHF or VHF radio

GUARD_channel_transmit.trk

[Silver_]

I like your way, it's better, but try PRESETs. You're going to get a surprise. I add the track I made to demonstrate the illogicality. Let's see if I can convince DCS. Thank you so much @Moonshine

DemoWithPresets.trk

PD; Without presets goes like a champ, with it NO.

Edited December 19, 2023 by Silver_

[Moonshine]

1 hour ago, Silver_ said:

I like your way, it's better, but try PRESETs. You're going to get a surprise. I add the track I made to demonstrate the illogicality. Let's see if I can convince DCS. Thank you so much @Moonshine

DemoWithPresets.trk 6.65 MB · 1 download

PD; Without presets goes like a champ, with it NO.

 

indeed, good find. same happens to me.

 

GUARD_channel_transmit_with_preset.trk

[Silver_]

I hope DCS takes note of this and doesn't ask for more evidence.

[Silver_]

Gentlemen of DCS, when you do not have evidence, please I ask you to use logic in your programming, it is easy to apply in this case, and do not program things crazy. Also, I don't know why they label all the messages that don't interest them as "needs evidence" when this simulator is not going to be used for military purposes, its only for entertainment.

[BIGNEWY]

2 hours ago, Silver_ said:

Gentlemen of DCS, when you do not have evidence, please I ask you to use logic in your programming, it is easy to apply in this case, and do not program things crazy. Also, I don't know why they label all the messages that don't interest them as "needs evidence" when this simulator is not going to be used for military purposes, its only for entertainment.

As mentioned before, if anyone has unclassified evidence PM me. We have made changes in the past that were based on assumption or logic which later turned out to be wrong, it wastes time and money. We need to see evidence. 

thank you