DCS best settings for Pimax headsets per GPU

[Johnny Dioxin]

On 7/19/2024 at 9:48 PM, Glide said:

Yes, no tools required.  Default Nvidia control panel settings, PimaxXR Control Center all deselected except recenter headset, DFR on Balanced in Pimax Play, no Smoothing, I have my Pixel Density set to .6 in DCS, but you can get finer control in the Pimax Play app.  This is to suit my 3080Ti.  BTW, if you have the headset at 90hz, and you can't get 90fps sitting in the main menu, your resolution is too high for your GPU.  Adjust the headset resolution or pixel density accordingly until you can get 90fps, or even 120fps in the main menu.

Launch into your favourite mission.  Let's say you are getting 66fps.  Press Esc, Options, drag the Max FPS slider down to 60 (10% headroom), and Resume.  This approach works regardless of graphics settings or mission workload.

Performance has been outstanding in DCS World (ST - not tried MT yet) without any additional utilities, at 90Hz and my standard settings that I used for VR since 2.7

Average mission framerate is 67 and GPU frametime is mid-teens. Noticed the odd stuttering of AI in heavy missions but otherwise no complaints. CPU frametime averaged at 4ms. I haven't enabled motion smoothing or tried FFR as yet as I usually say "if it ain't broke..." but will try and see where it goes. Extreme dimming is set. Tested in Caucasus and PG

Edited September 23, 2024 by Johnny Dioxin
old fogey typpping

[Dangerzone]

8 hours ago, Johnny Dioxin said:

Performance has been outstanding in DCS World (ST - not tried MT yet) without any additional utilities, at 90Hz and my standard settings that I used for VR since 2.7

Average mission framerate is 67 and GPU frametime is mid-teens. Noticed the odd stuttering of AI in heavy missions but otherwise no complaints. CPU frametime averaged at 4ms. I haven't enabled motion smoothing or tried FFR as yet as I usually say "if it ain't broke..." but will try and see where it goes. Extreme dimming is set. Tested in Caucasus and PG

 

Just incase you're not aware, ED announced that the next update will be dropping ST, and all users will be on MT - so even though "if it ain't broke" is a great concept to go by - you won't have that option on the next update.

Of course, if you don't play MT, and aren't interested in any new modules or updates coming out - you have the option to remain on your current version and run ST. 

Really hoping though, that ED will have all the MT issues sorted out in the next update - especially considering ST will no longer be an option. Personally seems crazy to drop ST prior to having a stable and equally comparable or better MT experience for all users first - even at least for one patch cycle, but IDK what's happening behind the scenes or what might bebeing 'held back' by ST support that will be more beneficial.

[Sr.]

Any 4080 users recommend settings? Or would they be similar to any already listed?

[Hartsblade]

3 hours ago, Sr. said:

Any 4080 users recommend settings? Or would they be similar to any already listed?

 

On 6/11/2024 at 11:07 AM, Hartsblade said:

Tallymouse posted a very useful settings video for the Crystal Light.

 

 

@Sr. check out Tallymouse's video, it is a great start.

[Dangerzone]

That video is a great starting point - but I have found that tweaking Quadviews to my needs is even better. (Running 160% in foviated, and 5% in the borders with a 10% margin area, and I have also increased the vertical size. 

Quadviews was a miracle generator for me. I tried the FFR in Pimax software but couldn't get DCS to run without being limited by GPU until I used Quadviews. I don't know what it does - black magic or something -but for me at least, my GPU runs cool at the moment in DCS. My biggest issues are being CPU liimited by a long way (with a 13900KF processor).

[Blackhawk163]

On 10/4/2024 at 1:41 PM, Sr. said:

Any 4080 users recommend settings? Or would they be similar to any already listed?

 I’m on the 4080 super. I can tell you what I use off the top of my head with regards to DCS and Pimax play. 
 

My hardware is in the signature below, so I won’t type that out. 
 

in Pimax play I have rendering set to .8 120hz refresh, no FFR/quadviews enabled, smart smoothing is enabled. 

for DCS I followed 

https://www.gamersbynight.com/dcs-settings-vr/ But kept the distance to ultra and clouds too I believe. The forest I used Tally mouse’s settings. 
Tinker with it, maybe there’s something’s you can/cannot live without . I chose as much of a balance of performance and quality as I could. I’m thinking about tinkering with the dlss settings to see if that still work and what if any benefits it has. 
 

good luck and clear stutter free skies

Edited October 18, 2024 by Blackhawk163

[Sr.]

How long after ordering did you guys receive the PCL?

[Dangerzone]

2 hours ago, Sr. said:

How long after ordering did you guys receive the PCL?

I think mine was around 10 weeks IIRC - but that was just before the were released and things were flat out for them.

[nephilimborn]

Good day all; received the PCL a few days, previous DCS VR experience with Q3. Struggling to find settings that mitigate the focus issues i seem to be having with PCL. OpenXR settings via the new PPClient (QV quality, Max render res, 72hz) DCS settings are generally as advised on the DCS forums with max FPS set to 77 (10% headroom). I have noticed others mentioning that 120hz locked to 60fps via the PP client is a better experience and will try that out tonight, however curious what the community here has experienced. 

[Dangerzone]

2 hours ago, nephilimborn said:

Good day all; received the PCL a few days, previous DCS VR experience with Q3. Struggling to find settings that mitigate the focus issues i seem to be having with PCL. OpenXR settings via the new PPClient (QV quality, Max render res, 72hz) DCS settings are generally as advised on the DCS forums with max FPS set to 77 (10% headroom). I have noticed others mentioning that 120hz locked to 60fps via the PP client is a better experience and will try that out tonight, however curious what the community here has experienced. 

What do you mean by focus issues? As in alignment, or are your lenses actually out of focus? (I ask because mine weren't mounted properly and were significantly out of focus, and even after mounting them correctly I needed replacement lenses sent because my original ones also had warping).

As for DCS settings, I use 72hz/fps. Motion smoothing OFF. (I can hit 72fps anway). Quadviews (essential piece of software) set to 160% in foveated, and 5% on the edges which I barely notice. I've avoided the new supersampling function Pimax have due to it causing writing, and labels, etc to be 'soft'. 

[Sr.]

On 10/6/2024 at 11:40 PM, Dangerzone said:

I think mine was around 10 weeks IIRC - but that was just before the were released and things were flat out for them.

Tracking shows mine should arrive tomorrow. 

[DucS2r]

On 10/11/2024 at 4:07 PM, Sr. said:

Tracking shows mine should arrive tomorrow. 

Mine too. Fingers crossed. Good luck!

[nephilimborn]

On 10/11/2024 at 12:49 PM, Dangerzone said:

What do you mean by focus issues? As in alignment, or are your lenses actually out of focus? (I ask because mine weren't mounted properly and were significantly out of focus, and even after mounting them correctly I needed replacement lenses sent because my original ones also had warping).

As for DCS settings, I use 72hz/fps. Motion smoothing OFF. (I can hit 72fps anway). Quadviews (essential piece of software) set to 160% in foveated, and 5% on the edges which I barely notice. I've avoided the new supersampling function Pimax have due to it causing writing, and labels, etc to be 'soft'. 

Apologies, focus was a poor choice of word...meant blurry movement. I think i have a small defect in the lens but that is separate topic. I followed your advice and adjusted DCS and PPlay settings for a stable 72hz - this turned out in the end, for my use case, to be the best experience. Thank you!

[Blackhawk163]

Update on the 4080 users front. I'm still using the settings in DCS as outlined in my previous post but have made some adjustments on the Pimax play settings.

First I'll preface this by saying that 60fps is plenty smooth for me, and it may not be the case for others, I just wanted to keep as much visual fidelity as I can.

I've bumped up the Render quality from .8 back to 1

enabled Pimax openxr quad and pimax central priority rendering (the verbiage has changed since the new update)

preference is still quality

Smart smooth on

lock half on

hidden area mask on

Vive compat on

DLSS Tweaks setting F

 

I took the a10IIc instant mission free flight at the caucuses, which is filled with heavy cloud cover, and have a locked 60fps

Free flight in the Persian gulf map @ 200 AGL a10II/f18 16 and 15 and 14 all through the city centers locked 60

Sinai Israel free flight f14a mission worse offender as dips went into 35fps at times. free flight on f15 dips into the mid to low 50`s both are at 280 agl on the free flight mission as well. The 18 on the map dips to 58 fps but, rarely on its specific area in the free flight mission (I chose the first CAP flight in the menu) and again flying at about 300 agl

This is all with about 15 minutes of testing as I'm quite busy today, and with the exception of the a10, and other than landings/mission specific parameters, I don't think most will be flying that low to begin with.

 

I'm sure lowering the resolution to about .85-88 might help stabilize some of the problem areas while still appearing very sharp. something to test later. 

 

 

[Nedum]

Hi,

 

I want to share my 4090 settings with you. If you have any question, feel free to ask me.

I will try to make a picture with my Handy, so you can see what I see sitting in my Cockpit.

The Tools and settings I am using see below.

1. Pimax Play 1.33.02.01 (see pictures below)

2. Quad-Views-Foveated-1.1.3

3. QuadViews Companion App (settings see pictures below)

4. OpenXR API Layers (for fixing issues if happen)

5. VRNecksafer beta5a (see pictures below)

6. DCS Systems and VR Settings (see pictures below)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited October 23, 2024 by Nedum

[Keith Briscoe]

Very helpful to see this @Nedum, thank you.

[Blackhawk163]

For the DCS settings why not drop the resolution to the lowest since that’s only for the monitor, unless you’re recording then never mind.

[avgyst]

Guys, can you tell me, in dcs on pimax crystal light, stopped fixing the frequency of 90hz, began to show 50-60 with statters, although the headset is set to 90.

[Keith Briscoe]

Welcome to our world...
sorry to be sarcastic.  I wish you luck; seems we must constantly chase issues in VR (and perhaps Pimax even more so).

23 hours ago, Blackhawk163 said:

For the DCS settings why not drop the resolution to the lowest since that’s only for the monitor, unless you’re recording then never mind.

very good question, I'll be watching here.

[avgyst]

5 часов назад, avgyst сказал:

Ребята, подскажите, в dcs на pimax crystal light, перестала фиксироваться частота 90hz, стала показывать 50-60 со статиками, хотя на гарнитуре выставлено 90

Problem solved

 

[DucS2r]

Thanks, you have been a lot of help even with my 3090. But, does quadviews companion still work when you have set the runtime to Pimax OpenXR? I thought quadviews was run through the Pimax Play settings once you enabled Pimax OpenXR. 

[Blackhawk163]

2 hours ago, avgyst said:

Problem solved

 

What was the issue causing it and the fix?

3 hours ago, Keith Briscoe said:

Welcome to our world...
sorry to be sarcastic.  I wish you luck; seems we must constantly chase issues in VR (and perhaps Pimax even more so).

very good question, I'll be watching here.

I've lowered it to the lowest resolution because unless I'm mistaken the GPU has to now render three images. 

[sleighzy]

5 hours ago, DucS2r said:

Thanks, you have been a lot of help even with my 3090. But, does quadviews companion still work when you have set the runtime to Pimax OpenXR? I thought quadviews was run through the Pimax Play settings once you enabled Pimax OpenXR. 

Quad Views companion will still work if you’re still using Quad-Views-Foveated. Nothing has changed there. PimaxPlay has a new OpenXR Quad Views option as well though (this is unrelated to just using the Pimax OpenXR runtime). If you select that option, and remove Quad-Views-Foveated, then you won’t be able to use the companion app anymore, it only works with Quad-Views-Foveated. 

[avgyst]

5 часов назад, Blackhawk163 сказал:

What was the issue causing it and the fix?

As it turned out the problem as such and was not, set the quality in the helmet from high to medium

[avgyst]

2 часа назад, avgyst сказал:

As it turned out the problem as such and was not, set the quality in the helmet from high to medium

In general as it turned out the problem is not solved, yesterday was fine, today started dcs and here it is again. My assumption is that it is related to openxr toolkit, when I turn on quad view everything is normal