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Tried this on my WW UFC, on my Virpil T50 and as keystroke

It registers in control options, but in game, it's only able to close the cover, not open it

Any other function in the keybinds concerning the MC weather this be 'On and Open' (even the 'else safe and closed) work as intended

 

...and while I'm at it, I can't seem to find the command for Canopy jettison in the list

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Master Arm cover?

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The cover over the master arm switch.  Should be able to open/close with a mapped control, but it didn't work for me, either.  I just assumed it was the goofy covers/lockwire/whatever that appeared over the combat controls for reasons I haven't figured out yet.

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43 minutes ago, scommander2 said:

Master Arm cover?

 

Ah yes, sorry, cleared up the title

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Posted (edited)

It's okay.

There are key bindings for the master arm cover:

 

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1 hour ago, scommander2 said:

It's okay.

There are key bindings for the master arm cover:

 

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And I bound a toggle to toggle.  Doesn't work.

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In my example, I bound master arm cover on and off with my HOTAS BTN24.  In addition, I tried to bind the same button with master arm cover open for testing and it worked for me.

 

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5 hours ago, scommander2 said:

In my example, I bound master arm cover on and off with my HOTAS BTN24.  In addition, I tried to bind the same button with master arm cover open for testing and it worked for me.

1. You can't use two commands for one button.

2. The guys are reporting the toggle command not working - why do you spoil the thread?

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Posted
11 hours ago, scommander2 said:

In my example, I bound master arm cover on and off with my HOTAS BTN24.  In addition, I tried to bind the same button with master arm cover open for testing and it worked for me.

 

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"If else off(/on)" doesn't work with momentary switches 

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7 hours ago, draconus said:

why do you spoil the thread?

oh... I did... sorry...

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On 2/29/2024 at 8:59 PM, Raisuli said:

And I bound a toggle to toggle.  Doesn't work.

A toggle is only half a toggle to DCS. When DCS says toggle, it means button. A toggle switch is just a button that’s either pushed or not. So set the pushed direction to the corresponding open or closed, then set the other command to that “buttons” “off” state. 
 

I’ve been on an input mod for a long time now. (Because “once we’re out of early access we’ll add the commands” is just a nice way of saying figure it out yourself)  Manually setting an “off” case for a button is DCS not some mod right?

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14 hours ago, RustBelt said:

A toggle is only half a toggle to DCS. When DCS says toggle, it means button. A toggle switch is just a button that’s either pushed or not. So set the pushed direction to the corresponding open or closed, then set the other command to that “buttons” “off” state. 
 

I’ve been on an input mod for a long time now. (Because “once we’re out of early access we’ll add the commands” is just a nice way of saying figure it out yourself)  Manually setting an “off” case for a button is DCS not some mod right?

 

But this is about "Toggle On/Off"

Where the same physical button sets the ingame switch to either on or off

Allowing momentary physical buttons t be used on latched functions

 

For the F-14, the 'Toggle ACM/Jettison cover On/Off' command does work

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Posted (edited)

<Edit>

I read Nightdare's post and for some reason it didn't parse; this is a repeat of that.  Or a confirmation.  Or I'm just off the rails again.  Either way, what @Nightdare said...

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The F-5 has a similar arrangement.

I have a 3PST switch for this; (ON)-ON-ON.  For the F-5 I use the (ON) momentary position to toggle the cover.  The middle ON is "safe" and the top ON is arm (guns, msl & cmr or some such).  Works great.

With the F-14 the (ON) momentary position does not toggle the cover, neither does any other momentary switch I tried.  The (ON) position for the arm switch will toggle the ACM cover if I change the assignment, however.

So, no, it doesn't work.

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22 hours ago, RustBelt said:

I’ve been on an input mod for a long time now. (Because “once we’re out of early access we’ll add the commands” is just a nice way of saying figure it out yourself)  Manually setting an “off” case for a button is DCS not some mod right?

Well, at least they hold out hope.  ED is useless when it comes to controls, and even worse are modules with the same feature (like altitude pressure adjustments) that respond differently to the exact same input.  No consistency at all.

HB has indicated the F4 is going to bury us under control input options.  Looking forward to it.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Raisuli said:

...even worse are modules with the same feature (like altitude pressure adjustments) that respond differently to the exact same input.  No consistency at all.

Are these exactly the same altimeters?

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