Gunfreak Posted May 13, 2024 Posted May 13, 2024 With Kola map. I think this is needed for cold war Russian carrier fleet. 6 i7 13700k @5.2ghz, GTX 3090, 64Gig ram 4800mhz DDR5, M2 drive.
Silver_Dragon Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 (edited) Some of them can match with Kola map (others was deploy on Pacific / Baltic / Black Sea). On fact: CVHG V/STOL aircraft carrier, guided missile armed. CHG Helicopter cruiser, guided missile armed Project 1143.4 Admiral Gorshkov CVHG Displacement: 33000 std In Class: [1] Size Class: A/Large In Service: 1987 - 96 Propulsion: Steam Turbine Crew: 2045 Electrn Cnt: 2nd Gen J&D Acoust Cnt: None Signature: Large/Noisy Armor Rating: 0/5/180 Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 4 Semi-Automatic PB&SB(2)6 P-500 Bazalt//Argon guidance link D F&A(1)6 Kinzhal w/8 9M330//PW/SW/PA/SA 4 3P95 D F(1)2 AK-100 100mm/70//MR-145 (7.8) C PW/SW/PA/SA(R)8 AK-630 30mm//4 MR-123 (4@8.8A) C F(10)2 RBU 12000 (UDAV-1) w/3 salvoes E 2 Elevators -- Air Group: • Original: 12/1 Yak-38 Forger A/B, 12 Ka-25PL Hormone A, 3 Ka-25 Hormone B, 1 Ka-25 Hormone C • 19 Ka-27PL Helix A, 3 Ka-27PS Helix C, 3 Ka-25 Hormone B, 2 Ka-27PS Helix D • 16 Yak-38, 16 Ka-27, 3 Ka-25 • 12 Yak-38, 18 Ka-27, 3 Ka-25, 2 Ka-32 • 1990: 12 Yak-38M, 16 Ka-27, 2 Ka-27PS, 2 KA-25Ts • Planned: 12 Yak-41, 10 Ka-27, 4 Ka-31, 2 Ka-32 Sensors: ES: 3rd Gen Mars-Passat (a failure, never operational), MR-710M-1 Fregat-M1, 3 MR-212/201 Vaygach-U, 2 MR-350 Podkat (F/A), 4 3P95 J MGK-355 Polinom, MGK-355TA Polinom-T K Troynik, Legenda, Uspekh, Gazon L Tin Man (Laser rf/2nd Gen IR sensor) -- Remarks: Fourth unit of Kiev class, heavily modified island. Commissioned as Baku. Angled flight deck. Fitted with stabilizers. Can launch 7 large helos at once. AK-630s linked to Kinzhal FCS, making them Autonomous. Two salvoes for the RBU 12000 are 1st Gen ATT defense. Provision for Yak-41 replacing Yak-38. • 4 Oct 90: Name changed from Baku to Admiral Gorshkov. • 1991: In reserve because of poor maintenance. • Jul 91: Yak-38 retired, removed from air group. • Sep - Oct 91: Yak-41 trials. • 1993, 1994: Suffered fires, boiler room explosion while laid up. Repaired and returned to service in 1995. • 2004: Sold to India, refitted by Russia, and entered Indian service 2013 as Vikramaditya. Damage & Speed Breakdown: Dam Pts: 0 198 395 593 711 790 Surf Speed: 30 23 15 8 0 Sinks Project 1143.3 Novorossiysk CVHG Displacement: 31900 std In Class: [1] Size Class: A/Large In Service: 1982 - 92 Propulsion: Steam Turbine Crew: 2037 Electrn Cnt: 2nd Gen J&D Acoust Cnt: None Signature: Large/Noisy Armor Rating: 0/5/180 Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 3 Semi-Automatic PB&SB(2)4 P-500 Bazalt//Argon guidance link D F/A(2)2 Shtorm-M w/48 msls//2 4R60 Grom D F/A(1)2 Kinzhal w/8 9M330//2 3P95 (see remarks) D F/A(2)2 AK-726 76mm/59//2 MR-114 (2@1.7) C PW/SW/PA/SA(R)8 AK-630 30mm//4 MR-123 (4@7.6) C F(2)1 RPK-1 Vyuga w/16 82R VIhkr E F(12)2 RBU 6000 Smerch-2 w/5 salvoes E 2 Elevators -- Air Group: • 14 Yak-38, 16 Ka-27, 2 Ka-27PS, 2 Ka-25RT • 1982: 16 Yak-38, 18 Ka-27, 2 Ka-27PS • 1983: 12 Yak-38 Forger A, 14 Ka-27, 2 Ka-27PS, 2 Ka-25Ts Sensors: ES: 2nd Gen MR-600 Voshkod, MR-710M Fregat M, 3 MR-212/201 Vaygach-U, 2 MR-350 Podkat (PS/SS) J MGK-355 Polinom, MGK-355TA Polinom-T K Troynik, Legenda, Uspekh L Tin Man (Laser rf/2nd Gen IR sensor) -- Remarks: Third unit of Kiev class. Kinzhal SAM system never fitted; 3P95 directors briefly installed, but no launchers. Fitted with stabilizers. Angled flight deck. Can launch 7 large helos at once. • May 91: Last time at sea. • 1992: Assigned to second class reserve. Suffered at least two fires, damage never repaired. • 1995: Sold to South Korea and scrapped. Damage & Speed Breakdown: Dam Pts: 0 193 386 579 695 772 Surf Speed: 32 24 16 8 0 Sinks Project 1143 Kiev CVHG Displacement: 30500 std In Class: [2] Size Class: A/Large In Service: 1976 - 92 Propulsion: Steam Turbine Crew: 1913 Electrn Cnt: 2nd Gen J&D Acoust Cnt: None Signature: Large/Noisy Armor Rating: 0/5/180 Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 3 Semi-Automatic PB&SB(2)4 P-500 Bazalt//Argon guidance link (8 reload missiles, one hour per missile, max sea state 3) D F/A(2)2 Shtorm-M w/48 msls//2 4R60 Grom D PS/SS(2)2 Osa-M w/20 msls//2 MPZ-301 Baza D F/A(2)2 AK-726 76mm/59//2 MR-114 (2@1.7) C PW/SW/PA/SA(R)8 AK-630 30mm//4 MR-123 (4@7.6) C F(2)1 RPK-1 Vyuga w/16 82R Vikhr E F(12)2 RBU 6000 Smerch-2 w/5 salvoes E P/S(5)2 533mm TT w/5 SET-65M F 2 Elevators -- Air Group: • 1975: 20 Ka-25PS, 2 Ka-25Ts (Kiev) • 1976: 9 Yak-38,14 Ka-25PS, 1 Ka-25Ts (Kiev) • 1978: 14 Yak-38, 16 Ka-25, 2 Ka-25PS, 2 Ka-25Ts (Minsk) Sensors: ES: 2nd Gen MR-600 Voshkod, MR-710M Fregat M, 3 Volga, 2 MPZ-301 Baza (P/S) J MG-342 Orion, MG-325 Vega K Troynik, Legenda, Uspekh L Remarks: Kiev, Minsk. Third unit Novorossiysk and fourth unit Adm. Gorshkov (ex-Baku) listed separately. Fitted with stabilizers. Angled flight deck. Can launch 7 large helos at once. Bazalt reload process takes one hour per missile, max sea state three, described as complex and difficult at sea, reloads omitted from third and fourth units. • Jul 76: First Yak-38 squadron operational. Night operations from Mar 78. • Dec 82 - Nov 84: Kiev refit, fitted for Ka-27 Helix vice Ka-25 Hormone. Yak-38 can use STO vice VTO. 533mm TT probably removed. Osa-M system probably upgraded to Osa-MA. • 1991: Minsk was to start refit in the Black Sea, but remained in the Pacific, 50% of her boilers were non-operational. Probably would have been fitted to operate Ka-27. • Jul 91: Yak-38 retired, removed from air group. • 1992: Both units assigned to second class reserve. Kiev cannibalized to support Adm. Gorshkov. • 1998: Minsk purchased by Chinese consortium and turned into a theme park. • 2000: Kiev sold to China and turned into a theme park. Damage & Speed Breakdown: Dam Pts: 0 187 375 562 674 749 Surf Speed: 32 24 16 8 0 Sinks Project 1123 Moskva CHG Displacement: 11920 std In Class: [2] Size Class: B/Medium In Service: 1967 - 95 Propulsion: Steam Turbine Crew: 850 Electrn Cnt: 2nd Gen J&D Acoust Cnt: None Signature: Med/Noisy Armor Rating: 0 Weapons: Cbt Sys: Gen 3 Semi-Automatic F(2)2 Shtorm w/48 msls//2 4R60 Grom D P/S(2)2 AK-725 57mm/70//2 MR-103 Bars (0.6) C F(2)1 RPK-1 Vyuga w/8 82R Vikhr E F(12)2 RBU 6000 Smerch-2 w/5 salvoes E P/S(5)2 533mm TT w/5 SET-65 F 2 Elevator -- Sensors: ES: 2nd Gen MR-600 Voshkod, MR-310A Angara-A, 2 Don 2 J MG-342 Orion, MG-325 Vega K Sea-U L Air Group: • 10 Ka-25 Hormone A, 4 Ka-25 Hormone B. Max load is 20 Ka-25. • 12 Ka-25 Hormone A, 1 Ka-25 Hormone B, 1 Ka-25 Hormone C. Remarks: Moskva, Leningrad. Inefficient hull design, treat as Small-sized ship for helicopter operations, but fitted with fin stabilizers. • Sep 68: Ka-25 trials. • 1970: Pad fitted for five small helicopters. • Nov 72: Moskva modified for Yak-38 Forger trials. • Aug - Oct 74: Leningrad deploys to Suez Canal with 2 Mi-8BT Hip converted to minesweeping. Helicopters too large for elevators and remain on deck for duration of operation. Also carried 5 Ka-25BShZ and 6 Ka-25PL/PS. • 2 Feb 75: Fire damages Moskva, repaired by 1976. • 1976: Leningrad refitted with Shtorm-M, TT removed. • 1978: Moskva refitted with Shtorm-M, TT removed. • Nov 83: Moskva to reserve. • Decommed: Leningrad Jun 91, Moskva 1995. Damage & Speed Breakdown: Dam Pts: 0 100 200 300 360 400 Surf Speed: 28 21 14 7 0 Sinks Air component: Ka-25PL [Hormone A] ASW Man Rtng: 1.5/1.0 Damage Value: 16 Size/Signature: Small/Small Bombsight: None Sensors: Initsiativa-2K radar, Baku sonobuoy processor, VGS-2 Oka dipping sonar or MAD instead of sonar. Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 105 115/120 -- Med: 105 115/120 -- Ceiling: 3500 meters Engine Type: TS Cruise Range: 125/180 nmi Int Fuel: 1215 kg Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add. 280 L tank 225 kg 35/45 nmi Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 650 kg • 36 RGB-N or 8 RGB-NM sonobuoys • 1 AT-1 or AT-1M or APR-1 or APR-2 torpedo • 4 PLAB-250-120 or 8 PLAB-50 or 36 PLAB-MK DC Remarks: In Svc: 1966 - 1995 Helicopter. Baykal ASW system. Can carry 4 passengers. 275 delivered Dec 65 to 1973. Exported to India - 7 1979-80, Syria - 9, Vietnam - 6 1979 and Yugoslavia - 12 1974 • Ka-25BShZ is equipped to tow line charge to destroy mines. All sensors and weapons removed. Eight produced, in service 1975. • Ka-25BT with magnetic minesweep. Four produced in 1975. • Ka-25EM: ELINT version. In service 1975. • 19??: Ka-25PLYu adapted to carry RYu-2 Skat nuclear DB. • 1966-Nov 71: Poor maintenance, treat as Third World. • Aug 67: First deployment on Tobol (Type 1886 submarine tender). • Sep-Nov 68: First operational deployment on Moskva (Project 1123). • 2 Dec 71: Accepted for service. Poor reliability before this date. • Jul 72: 5 in Baltic, 55 Black Sea, 35 Northern Fleet, 30 Pacific. • 1974: Fitted with increased engine thrust. Flotation bags removed, use second speeds and ranges. • 1976: Ka-25PLS fitted to carry VTT-1 Strizh torpedo, Troynik data link. Must hover to launch and guide torpedo. Dipping sonar removed. Rarely used. • 1980s: APR-2 torpedo and KAB-250-100PL available. Ka-25Ts [Hormone B] Recon Man Rtng: 1.5/1.0 Damage Value: 16 Size/Signature: Small/Small Bombsight: None Sensors: Uspekh-2 radar, Uspekh-A data link Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 92 110 -- Med: 92 110 -- Ceiling: 3500 meters Engine Type: TS Cruise Range: 265 nmi Int Fuel: 1705 kg Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add. 200 L tank 160 kg 35 nmi Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 1000 kg • 2 200 L tanks Remarks: In Svc: 1965 - mid 90s Helicopter. 50 delivered 1965-72. One ex-Soviet to Bulgaria in 1984. Can carry 12 passengers. Typically operates 108 nmi from ship. Ka-25PS [Hormone C] SAR/Transport Man Rtng: 1.5/1.0 Damage Value: 16 Size/Signature: Small/Small Bombsight: None Sensors: Initsiativa-2K radar Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 108 120 -- Med: 108 120 -- Ceiling: 4000 meters Engine Type: TS Cruise Range: 245 nmi Int Fuel: e1665 kg Remarks: In Svc: 1971 - 90s? Helicopter. Can detect pilot beacon within 35 nmi. Can carry 10 survivors or 1300 kg cargo. Used as troop transport until Ka-29 enters service with 12 troops. Produced 1971-72. • Ka-25BPK: Equipped with radiation detection sensors. Capable of detecting nuclear weapons aboard ships. One per fleet. Ka-27 [Helix A] ASW Patrol Man Rtng: 2.5/2.0 Damage Value: 18 Size/Signature: Small/Small Bombsight: None Sensors: A-100 Pakhra sonobuoy processor, Osminog radar, Troynik data link, VGS-3 Ros-V dipping sonar or MAD Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 124 146 -- Med: 124 146 -- Ceiling: 5000 meters Engine Type: TS Cruise Range: 265 nmi Int Fuel: 2350 kg Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add. 500 L ferry tank 405 kg 65 nmi Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 1000 kg • 1 AT-1M or UMGT-1 or APR-2 torpedo • 8 PLAB-250-120 DC • 2 KAB-250-100PL Zagon guided DC • 1 RYu-2 Skat Nuclear DB • 2 500 L tanks • 36 RGB-NM-1 • 32 RGB-16 (Ka-27M) • 1 APR-3M Orel torpedo or 8 KAB-PL DC (Ka-27M) Remarks: In Svc: April 1981 Helicopter. Operate in hunter/killer pairs. All weapons are carried internally. Can carry either dipping sonar or MAD, not both on same mission. Osminog is actually Initsiativa-2KM radar. Not fitted with rescue winch or cargo hook. • Regiments (OKPLVP): Baltic - 745th Donskoye 1986; Black Sea - 78th Lake Donuzlav 1986-95, 872nd Kacha 1979-?; Northern - 830th Severmorsk-2 1980, Severmorsk-1 2000; Pacific - 710th Novonezhino Oct 82-May 98, 289th Nikolaevka May 98. • Ka-27E: Equipped with radiation detection sensors. Capable of detecting nuclear weapons aboard ships. Two based Black Sea. Single in each other fleet. • Ka-27PS [Helix C]: SAR with radar only, one 500 L tanks as standard. Can carry 3000 kg slung load or 12 survivors. Standard is 12 six-man and 2 five-man life rafts. In service 1982. 104 delivered - 40 Navy, 40 Border Guard, 24 Air Force. • Ka-27PST: One Ka-27PS trials 2nd Gen FLIR in 2003. • Ka-27REP: One prototype with unknown standoff radar jammer. • Ka-32: Civil Ka-27PS also used by Navy for shipboard SAR, patrol and VERTREP. • Ka-32A11BC: Shore based SAR with two each at Nikolaevka (Pacific) and Severmorsk-1 (Northern). In service Nov 13. • Late 80s - 90s: Fitted with Izumrud sonobuoy processor and 16 RGB-16. • 1990s on: Ka-27PS frequently deploys on naval ships replacing Ka-27 for some deployments. • 2010: Four Ka-27PS in use with Air Force for land SAR. • 2016: 16 Ka-27PS in naval service. • Jan 17: First Ka-27M delivered to Russian Navy. Has Bumerang combat system - Kopyo-A radar, MAD, 3rd gen ES, RGS-B01 Kema acoustic processor, VGS-3 Ros-VM dipping sonar, Bumerang data link. 46 aircraft planned to be upgraded - 4-6 training plus five squadrons each of 8 Ka-27M. 22 delivered by Oct 18 with 3 training, 6 Pacific, 6 Northern, 7 Baltic. • May 19: APR-3M Orel torpedo completes trials. Estimate operational 2020. Yak-38/38M [Forger A] Attack Man Rtng: 3.0/1.5 Damage Value: 20 Size/Signature: Small/Small Bombsight: Ballistic Counterm: 1st Gen J Inflight Refuel: N Sensors: Gen 0 RWR Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 520 560 -- Med: 520 555 -- High: 520 545 -- Ceiling: 11000 meters Engine Type: TJ Cruise Range: 200/325 nmi Int Fuel: 2750 kg Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add. 500 L drop tank 405 kg 80 nmi Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 700/1700 kg • Vertical Take Off (VTO), either: • 2 R-60 or 2 UPK-23-250 gun pods • 2 Kh-23, Delta pod • 1 RN-28 or RN-40 or RN-41 nuke bomb, 1 FAB-250, 1 FAB-100 • 6 FAB-100 or 2 FAB-250 bombs • 2 UB-16-57, 2 UB-32-57 rocket pods • 2 B-8M1 rocket pods or 2 S-24 rockets • Short Take Off (STO), either: • 2 UPK-23-250 gun pods, 2 R-60 or 2 R-60M • 4 S-24 rockets or 10 OFAB-100 or 4 FAB-250 • 2 Kh-25MR, Delta pod (Yak-38M) • 2 drop tanks, 2 R-60M or 2 UPK-23-250 (Yak-38M) • 2 drop tanks, 2 UB-16-57 or 2 S-24 or 2 FAB-250 (Yak-38M) Remarks: In Svc: 1976/85 - 1992 V/STOL. Originally operated in vertical takeoff (VTO), use first range. Poor serviceability, treat as Third World. Regiments - 279th OKShAP Severomorsk-3, Northern Mar 77-89; 311th OKShAP Pristan, Pacific Oct 76-92. 142 Yak-38 delivered 1974-83, 50 Yak-38M delivered 1984-88. • Strength: 5 (Jul 76), 45 (May 78), 68 (Oct 81), 106 (1983), 83 (Nov 89) • Mar 78: Night training commences. Never cleared for all weather operations. • 23 Apr - 29 May 80: Four Yak-38 deployed to Shindad, Afghanistan for combat trials. Due to hot and high conditions had to use conventional takeoff with payload limited to 500 kg. • Aug 82: Rolling short takeoff (STO) increases payload to 1700 kg, use second range. Can use all STO loadouts. • 1985: Yak-38M [Forger B] adds drop tank capability on inner wing HP. Can carry RBK-250/500 vice FAB-250/500, Kh-25MR [AS-10 Karen] vice Kh-23. VTO/STO - payload 500/2000 kg, range 205/320 nmi. • Aug 89: VSPU-36 gun pod approved for service - can carry in any loadout. • Jul 91: Last sea sortie. Yak-41M [Freestyle] Fighter Man Rtng: 4.0/3.0 Damage Value: 23 Size/Signature: Small/Small Bombsight: Computing Counterm: 2nd Gen D Inflight Refuel: N Sensors: N-002 Zhuk radar, 2nd Gen RWR, EO (2nd gen IRST, laser rf.) linked to HMS Throttle Setting/Speed in knots Altitude Cruise Full Mil Reheat Low: 460 590 675 Med: 460 550 820 High: 460 520 970 Ceiling: 15000 meters Engine Type: TF Cruise Range: 490 nmi Int Fuel: 4400 kg Additional Fuel Fuel Wt. Range Add. 2000 L Conformal tank 1620 kg 260 nmi Ordnance Loadouts: Payload: 1000/2600 kg Off Guns: GSh-30-1 30mm (2.5) • 2 R-27R or 2 R-77, 2 R-73 • 4 R-77 • 6 FAB-250 or 4 FAB-500 • 4 B-8M1 rocket pods or 4 S-24 rockets • 2 Kh-25MP or Kh-31A/P or Kh-35, 2 R-77 Remarks: In Svc: 1995 V/STOL. Payload is for VTO/STO. Triplex FBW control system, digital engine controls. Can carry conformal tank in any STO mission profile. Can engage 2 targets at once with R-77. Known as Yak-141 during record attempts and by Yakovlev as Yak-41M designation originally classified. • Sep 91: Canceled with trials 85% complete. Radar and weapons never tested. Edited May 14, 2024 by Silver_Dragon 2 1 For Work/Gaming: 28" Philips 246E Monitor - Ryzen 7 1800X - 32 GB DDR4 - nVidia RTX1080 - SSD 860 EVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 1 TB / 860 QVO 2 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Warthog / TPR / MDF
Northstar98 Posted May 14, 2024 Posted May 14, 2024 (edited) Yep, couldn't agree more. There are 2 relevant Kievs for the Kola map - the Kiev (i.e. the original TAVKR Pr. 1143) and the Baku (later the Admiral Flota Sovetskogo Soyuza Gorshkov), which is a Pr. 1143.4. Personally, I'd be much more interested in the former - it had a longer service life, relevant for the entirety of the late Cold War period - the flagship of the Northern Fleet. While it has a weaker point-defence SAM system in the 4K33 Osa-M [SA-N-4 Gecko] (with 40 9M33 missiles) as opposed to the 3K95 Kinzhal [SA-N-9 Gauntlet] (with 192 9M330 missiles), it carries a medium-range SAM system with the M-11 Shtorm [SA-N-3 Goblet] (w/ 96 V-611 missiles). It also carries 4 more P-500 [SS-N-12 Sandbox Mod 1] AShMs (albeit 8 as reloads, the Baku has 4 more launchers). Edited May 15, 2024 by Northstar98 5 Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk. Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas. System: GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV. Peripherals: VKB Gunfighter Mk.II w. MCG Pro, MFG Crosswind V3 Graphite, Logitech Extreme 3D Pro.
Ramius007 Posted June 24, 2024 Posted June 24, 2024 Moskva helicopter carrier was part of Black Sea fleet for entire service live so it's way less fitting Kola map, but i agree with Kiev+Yak-38 addition, but IMO request should rather go to Kola map producer. Also I would welcome Sovromenny class destroyer, it would be interesting and challanging asset to have 2
WizardLyric3130 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 (edited) +1, hope they can bring this materials in the game. Even just in AI would be perfect to start with. Edited July 31, 2024 by WizardLyric3130 2 DCS : "ORACLE 1-7 | Cochonou"
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