Callsign Review Board- Who’s Already Screwed Up?

[Kalasnkova74]

I’ll lead off with my errors.

As I was following the startup checklist, the left engine didn’t want to start up. After staring at the 20% RPM gauge like a drooling idiot and wondering if my last mod broke the game- or perhaps a throttle keybind error - I looked at the left panel…..

 

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Turns out the left engine won’t start without the left engine master switch in the “ON” position. Guess that’s in the checklist for a reason!

 

 

 

 

Edited May 23, 2024 by Kalasnkova74

[Chunga]

I'm also having troubles with engine startup. The tutorial mentions that the EGT should be at 45% but doesn't seem to tell  you where the EGT is (or what it is) beforehand. When searching for "EGT" in the manual I also get no hits [Later realized search function in PDF isn't working correctly]. Maybe it was mentioned earlier and am just failing to make the link between the abbreviation and actual words.

Can someone tell me what EGT stands for?

Update: I managed my way through and was later informed it stands for Exhaust Gas Temperature, in case anyone else is wondering.

 

Edited May 23, 2024 by Chunga

[RaisedByWolves]

Exhaust Gas Temperature.

[dandebo]

Yep, stuffed up engine start up. Is it half throttle or indent? Is indent idle?

Manual is useless at the moment and doesn't work.

[Kalasnkova74]

3 hours ago, dandebo said:

Yep, stuffed up engine start up. Is it half throttle or indent? Is indent idle?

Manual is useless at the moment and doesn't work.

At that point in the process (after you’ve switched on the engine master ) , move left/right throttle out of the cutoff position (I use a dedicated keybind) & move the throttle to halfway and back (it’s a cross-check to ensure its rigger correctly) while simultaneously holding down the engine igniter button (another keybind). 
 

Release the igniter button once the RPM goes above 40%. 
 

 

[Nealius]

"Bounce"

First takeoff I tried to be a hotshot with an unrestricted climb. Full aft stick at 80KIAS per the book.  As soon as I was airborne I eased off stick pressure to level out. Instead of arresting the climb, the nose dropped below the horizon and I planted all three gear on the runway for a few seconds before going airborne again.

[Tiger-II]

21 minutes ago, Nealius said:

"Bounce"

First takeoff I tried to be a hotshot with an unrestricted climb. Full aft stick at 80KIAS per the book.  As soon as I was airborne I eased off stick pressure to level out. Instead of arresting the climb, the nose dropped below the horizon and I planted all three gear on the runway for a few seconds before going airborne again.

Something is funky for sure. 3 units is far too much trim.

[Kirk66]

44 minutes ago, Tiger-II said:

Something is funky for sure. 3 units is far too much trim.

Trust me, 3 units is exactly right. The F-4 takeoff procedure is a bit different from most jet; instead of pulling the stick back to raise the nose for takeoff, you relax back pressure on the stick as the nose starts to rise, stopping the rise at 10 -12 degrees, then holding it there as the jet takes off. You continuously ease off the back pressure until reaching about 300 knots, when the jet will be in trim, with gear and flaps up. Thats how it works in the real jet, and how in works in the sim.

Vulture

[Tiger-II]

1 minute ago, Kirk66 said:

Trust me, 3 units is exactly right. The F-4 takeoff procedure is a bit different from most jet; instead of pulling the stick back to raise the nose for takeoff, you relax back pressure on the stick as the nose starts to rise, stopping the rise at 10 -12 degrees, then holding it there as the jet takes off. You continuously ease off the back pressure until reaching about 300 knots, when the jet will be in trim, with gear and flaps up. Thats how it works in the real jet, and how in works in the sim.

Vulture

That makes more sense. I knew the first part (rotation technique) but thought it was trimmed for a slower speed (e.g. 200 kts to help with preventing gear overspeed).

[Nealius]

Easing off back pressure with 3 units ND trim was exactly how my nose ended up dropping.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

2 hours ago, Nealius said:

Easing off back pressure with 3 units ND trim was exactly how my nose ended up dropping.

Ease off yes, but don’t return pitch to neutral just yet - as Vulture said above

Edited May 24, 2024 by Raven (Elysian Angel)
typo

[Gianky]

So, I'd say Nealius should henceforth be known as "Kangaroo" or "Easy".

Edited May 24, 2024 by Gianky

[Kalasnkova74]

12 hours ago, Tiger-II said:

That makes more sense. I knew the first part (rotation technique) but thought it was trimmed for a slower speed (e.g. 200 kts to help with preventing gear overspeed).

It’s an aerodynamic leftover from the F-4s Naval roots. The first versions of the F-4 were launched off of ships. Thus also the “unusual for an Air Force bird” landing procedure.