Missiles improper pull up behavior when lost guidance

[wwWolfcom]

TEST: shutdown radar/beak lock after launching missiles

R-3R STT

AIM-54C TWS

AIM54C STT

 

 

R-77 STT

 

 

R27ER STT

 

Missiles pull up like 20G, 20' when they lost guidance(no matter guided by aircraft radar or missile own radar) no matter how target maneuver.
Very critical bug for BVR engagement.
This behavior did not appear before 2.9.5 patch.
HOT FIX is demanded asap

Most of old API missiles are affected. Other IR missiles are also effected such as AIM9M,L,X, R73, R60 etc have same issues.

9X pull up behavior

Other missiles in multiplayer

 

 

AIM-54C 

 

R27ET

 

PL-12,SD-10,AIM-120,AIM-7530 are exception. They behave normally like before 2.9.5.

AIM-120 normally behave in 'Memory track mode'

Tacview-20240602-124344-DCS-Missile TEST3.R27ER STTzip.acmiTacview-20240602-124109-DCS-Missile TEST3.R77 STTzip.acmiTacview-20240602-122815-DCS-Missile TEST3 R3R STT.zip.acmiTacview-20240602-121906-DCS-Missile TEST3 AIM54 STT.zip.acmiTacview-20240602-121718-DCS-Missile TEST3 AIM54 TWS.zip.acmiTacview-20240602-124648-DCS-Missile TEST3 AIM120 NO PITCH UP.zip.acmi

 

TACVIEW for Test mission

R27er STT.trkR3R STT.trkAIM120 TWS NO PITCH UP.trkAIM54C TWS.trkAIM54C STT.trkAIM7 STT NO PITCH UP.trkR77 STT.trk

Trackfile for test mission including aim120/aim7

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Before 2.9.5. From GS server

Tacview-20240313-084242-DCS-Host-Server_1_Operation_Urban_Thunder_V7.7.34.zip.acmi

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+AIM54A is not guided on TWS

Edited June 3, 2024 by wwWolfcom

[Anubis_94]

Hello,

 

Backuping this topic, our squad encountered the issue on multiple R27ER from Mig29 when AI broke lock while defending.

(Track too huge to be shared)

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@BIGNEWY &  @Flappie is there enough info here for a bug to be raised ?  The behaviour of the phoenix has definitely changed  recently 

thanks in advance

[Маэстро]

It's already fixed internally

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do we know if this fixed the TWS guidance issue as well ? 

 

[speed-of-heat]

do we know if this shipped?  I'm still seeing the birds going dumb with multiple launches?

[Маэстро]

The fix was delivered with the latest patch. If your DCS is up to date but you still seeing this problem please attach a short track.

[speed-of-heat]

so i am not seeing pull up ... but i am seeing birds going dumb "differently" , usually straight ahead or low... (that said i have replayed this track 3 times and gotten 3 different results) so best of luck ... 

phoenix test 1.trk