Will the damage model be updated?

[NameUt]

Hi,

I recently bought the OH-58D off the steam DLC store. I really enjoy that it is relatively easy to fly compared to other helicopters like the apache, MI-8 and Huey and it has been the first helicopter I have been able to master flying long distances without crashing. I have played DCS for many years now but I don't actually have many hours as I only play on and off, so this is perfect for me. 

But the more I play the more disappointed I am with the damage model. On the store it claims that there is an 'advanced damage model' which I figured would mean the helicopter would have parts that can fall off due to impact or damage, it does not. The entire helicopter appears unable to loose any parts except for the rotors, even the struts during hard landings. I have also been shot many times by infantry causing an overlay of damage to display on some areas like the scout eye above the rotor but the helicopter appears to operate normally. So far I have only seen the helicopter capable of being dead or in perfect health, no in between. 

The more I play the more I am disappointed by this, is there any plans to update the damage model?

 

Thanks.

[Tigre.]

I absolutely agree, in the product features it is clearly stated that it has an advanced damage model:

Cita

• Advanced damage modeling and failures for aircraft systems and components

Instead, the damage model present is practically hinted at and there is very little "advanced" about it, in the event of impact with the ground the main rotor continues to spin without breaking and enters the ground, the tail boom remains intact, the fuselage as well , the engine continues to run for a long time before you hear the revs decrease, etc.... but on the other hand the airbags deploy...

This is all very disappointing for a module sold as "complete", so i join the question, is there any plan to update the damage model?

Thanks

 

Edited June 10, 2024 by Tigre.

[Avimimus]

I just hit an OH-58D with 32 rounds from my Gazelle... and it was forced down (not on fire)... a BRDM in the same sortie took 12 rounds to burn.

Edit: To clarify - that is 32 rounds from the GIAT 20mm (not the HMP).

Edited June 15, 2024 by Avimimus

[NameUt]

4 hours ago, Tigre. said:

but on the other hand the airbags deploy...

Oh and to add that feature is great. Was a bit of a surprise when it first went off lol.

[assafm25]

And BTW the skid never broke 

[NameUt]

The more I think about this module the more buyers regret I am having with the very high price and very poor damage module. I think theres still a chance of a steam refund since I purchased there, crossing my fingers. But I really wish the developers of the module would respond to the general criticism over the damage model or remove the 'Advanced Damage Model' claims from their page.

For the most expensive helicopter on the store right now it really does not feel like it as much as I love the other features.

[MiG21bisFishbedL]

On 6/10/2024 at 4:12 PM, Avimimus said:

I just hit an OH-58D with 32 rounds from my Gazelle... and it was forced down (not on fire)... a BRDM in the same sortie took 12 rounds to burn.

Player or AI OH-58?

[Avimimus]

6 hours ago, MiG21bisFishbedL said:

Player or AI OH-58?

AI controlled - but it was the newly released flyable version. 

[fjacobsen]

On 6/15/2024 at 4:41 AM, NameUt said:

The more I think about this module the more buyers regret I am having with the very high price and very poor damage module. I think theres still a chance of a steam refund since I purchased there, crossing my fingers. But I really wish the developers of the module would respond to the general criticism over the damage model or remove the 'Advanced Damage Model' claims from their page.

For the most expensive helicopter on the store right now it really does not feel like it as much as I love the other features.

Didn´t You notice that this release is Early Acces ?

The module will be updated over time and most probably get a much better damage model.

[GrEaSeLiTeNiN]

15 minutes ago, fjacobsen said:

Didn´t You notice that this release is Early Access ?

The module will be updated over time and most probably get a much better damage model.

It is not being sold as an Early Access. That's why ppl are 'talking'. But yes, it will be updated with time. 

[NameUt]

On 6/18/2024 at 3:36 AM, fjacobsen said:

Didn´t You notice that this release is Early Acces ?

The module will be updated over time and most probably get a much better damage model.

It is not tagged or stated to be early access on steam or DCS store, as such it is not.

Adding this to mark as Solution. They have stated on their discord that it will be updated.

 

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Roadmap Besides the bug reports we’ve been keeping a close eye on requests and overall user experience feedback. In the next few months, while we continue working on fixing any issues, we’ll also be working on improving the user experience. Based on the feedback received, we will focus on, among other things, the following items:

• Vast improvement of the damage model, especially ground collision and structural damage.

 

[YoYo]

Also no any glass broke, even from direct shot or crash.

[fjacobsen]

At least the Airbags work