install individual aircraft. Flaming Cliff 3 install loop

[CarbonFox]

1 hour ago, MAXsenna said:

You just enable/install them in the launcher.
Cheers!

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Unfortunately none of the individual jets appear in the launcher. The Available folder is blank.

[orbmis]

30 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Ok. That's not good. What happens if you uninstall. Do a "verify" (repair) of DCS in the Steam launcher, and then try to install again?

 

Whew! In that screen (from the new non-Steam V296 launcher), when clicking the highlighted “Available” tab, the next screen shows nothing. (Sigh)

Edited July 17, 2024 by orbmis

[MAXsenna]

Unfortunately none of the individual jets appear in the launcher. The Available folder is blank.

That's a bummer. Have you tried a repair? Hmmm did purchase both FC3 and the individual modules, (because I hated the way FC3 grouped everything together, and that is now fixed. Hilarious!), might be why it worked for me. Dunno!

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Whew! In that screen (from the new non-Steam V296 launcher), when clicking the highlighted “Available” tab, the next screen shows nothing. (Sigh)

Same issue for you I guess.

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Unfortunately none of the individual jets appear in the launcher. The Available folder is blank.

I did get the notification that 5/6 items were available for installation. The list though, was empty until I did the uninstallation first.

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[Slippa]

I’m using stand-alone and can’t get rid of it or sort it out.

I did a long repair last night as well trying to fix the stuttering. No luck with fixing either but either NL or BN said in a thread somewhere here that there’ll be a fix and to ignore it for now. That’ll do me so I’m happy to wait.

[EyeDoc]

В 15.07.2024 в 18:07, Skydogs сказал:

I bought FC as a CD by Lock on - I fly in stand alone

probably the code is too old, I'll probably get FC4

I also started from LockOn on CD, then A-10 on CD, then Black Shark on CD, then FC on CD, then DCS World (non-steam)... Wanted to upgrade from FC-3 to FC-2024, but before downloading the latest update something told me to check the news - and here I am, reading all of this and happy that I don't have these problems yet, because I didn't hit "Update" button... But still don't know what to do to get the most recent update (with new maps and new aircraft in FC) while preserving my present mappings for FC-3 aircraft. I'm still not sure that purchase of FC-2024 will solve the problems with authorization without the need to remap all the controls...

[orbmis]

55 minutes ago, EyeDoc said:

I also started from LockOn on CD, then A-10 on CD, then Black Shark on CD, then FC on CD, then DCS World (non-steam)... Wanted to upgrade from FC-3 to FC-2024, but before downloading the latest update something told me to check the news - and here I am, reading all of this and happy that I don't have these problems yet, because I didn't hit "Update" button... But still don't know what to do to get the most recent update (with new maps and new aircraft in FC) while preserving my present mappings for FC-3 aircraft. I'm still not sure that purchase of FC-2024 will solve the problems with authorization without the need to remap all the controls...

Did you ever proceed & purchase the new FC2024 & install it under DCS V2.9.6? I was considering buying FC2024 for an install under V2.9.5, but the current mayhem going on with FC & DCS 296 has completely scared me off. I’m thinking of just waiting for all of it to clear, but then the current sale on FC2024 would prolly be over.

let me know where you stand on things.

PostNote:  and then I see this, which doesn’t help any…

orby

Edited July 17, 2024 by orbmis

[EyeDoc]

В 15.07.2024 в 16:26, BIGNEWY сказал:

It is more complicated than that but it has been a pain for sure. 

Basically the FC3 pack needed to be set to legacy and the individual aircraft should have worked without issue, but complications with authentication happened which are now resolved. 

But we still have a situation where some FC3 owners were not being authorised due to older codes being used or issues with the steam API if they had linked to stand alone. 

Also in some cases there was a mix of steam purchased and eshop purchased modules which complicated the auth issue for the optional upgrade. 

If you are still having issues please make a support ticket they will check the licences. 

But most people now can download the individual aircraft from FC3 and continue as normal. 

thank you 

To make it less complicated, the whole situation should be divided into smaller tasks...

1. To set FC3 pack to legacy leaving the individual aircraft from this pack working. This should've been planned in advance, users should be informed and instructed if they needed to undertake some action to continue flying their existing FC3 aircraft without the need to reconfigure and remap everything. The best solution here would be a patch (optional, only for FC3 owners, since others are not affected by this issue) which could make all necessary changes in the configuration files, transfer plane folders (if needed) and preserving existing mappings. Authorization algorithms should've also been updated to take into account this "separation", so that the end user would notice nothing - every FC3 aircraft after applying this patch should work exactly the same way as it worked before.

2. "Older codes"... Well, until this update they were not so "old" to work properly. Maybe it's just the update is too "new", I mean the compatibility with the existing codes was not tested enough to be sure that everything will work fine?

3. Mix of steam and e-shop. Again, did you test this before releasing the update?

4. Personally I don't have any issues yet, because I haven't installed the latest update. But, as you can understand, I don't want to have any problems after downloading it. As for now - I can't be sure.

5. "Most" people... What about the rest, who still have problems? What about mapping of the controls for downloaded individual aircraft? If they have to be configured from a scratch then it's not good - you're solving one problem but creating another one!

Summary - it was not a good idea to combine so many changes (launcher with new authorization, maps, FC update) into one single release. Now you know that there are problems, but you don't know where they are - and what to do. Taking this into account I think the best solution at the moment (responsible approach, not "it's not my problem" approach) is to cancel the update, revert everything to the previous (working for everyone) state - and then search for the error, test everything thoroughly and, maybe, release again not as one major update, but part by part, to make sure that every step is OK, before making the next step. Instead of having headache and performing troubleshooting without any guarantee of a success I'm ready to wait a little (and even longer that just a little) to get everything smoothly working. Best luck to you in recovering from this, for sure, unpleasant for many, situation!

[EyeDoc]

20 минут назад, orbmis сказал:

Did you ever proceed & purchase the new FC2024 & install it under DCS V2.9.6? I was considering buying FC2024 for an install under V2.9.5, but the current mayhem going on with FC & DCS 296 has completely scared me off. I’m thinking of just waiting for all of it to clear, but then the current sale on FC2024 would prolly be over.

let me know where you stand on things.

PostNote:  and then I see this, which doesn’t help any…

orby

 

No, I'm still afraid to install the latest update. Maybe, we should buy FC2024 now, but install it later, after everything will be fine?

[orbmis]

11 hours ago, EyeDoc said:

No, I'm still afraid to install the latest update. Maybe, we should buy FC2024 now, but install it later, after everything will be fine?

I fully agree with you on the avoidance of v296 until these issues with FC3 are clearly resolved. And, yes, your idea of purchase & holding FC2024 might just be the best solution. It would also give us time to explore the idea of fully removing the FC3 aircraft before installing FC2024.

 

[YoYo]

On 7/17/2024 at 4:17 AM, CarbonFox said:

Unfortunately none of the individual jets appear in the launcher. The Available folder is blank.

The same, the page is empty (exept Su33), perhaps I’ll create support ticket finally.

[Nunyer]

I managed to work around this issue. Obviously can't guarantee this will work for anybody else, but here's what I did: 

 

1) Load into the full game from the launcher, ignore and cancel the pop-up for Flaming Cliffs 3 that will start the loop

2) Go to module manager, then go to the "installed" tab

3) From the installed tab, check the box next to all FC3 items (F-15C for DCS World, MIG-29 for DCS World, etc) and select "delete"

Once you reload and get back into the full game (not the new launcher but the full game), the pop-up * should * now list the individual jets in addition to the Flaming Cliffs 3 item that originally started the loop. Remove the check on the FC3 pack, add the check to all the individual jets then click ok. Game should exit and kickoff the download. Once that was done and the game reloaded, all my FC3 modules were accessible. I still get the original "Flaming Cliffs 3" pop-up that starts the previous loop when I load into the game, but it appears this can now be safely ignored. 

[OzCougar]

17 hours ago, Nunyer said:

I managed to work around this issue. Obviously can't guarantee this will work for anybody else, but here's what I did: 

 

1) Load into the full game from the launcher, ignore and cancel the pop-up for Flaming Cliffs 3 that will start the loop

2) Go to module manager, then go to the "installed" tab

3) From the installed tab, check the box next to all FC3 items (F-15C for DCS World, MIG-29 for DCS World, etc) and select "delete"

Once you reload and get back into the full game (not the new launcher but the full game), the pop-up * should * now list the individual jets in addition to the Flaming Cliffs 3 item that originally started the loop. Remove the check on the FC3 pack, add the check to all the individual jets then click ok. Game should exit and kickoff the download. Once that was done and the game reloaded, all my FC3 modules were accessible. I still get the original "Flaming Cliffs 3" pop-up that starts the previous loop when I load into the game, but it appears this can now be safely ignored. 

THANK YOU!!!! .... I have been trying to resolve this and your solution worked perfectly. Cheers .

[CarbonFox]

I don't see the individual aircraft in the in-game module manager either. Just FC3. I might try a full repair to see if that works. If not, I just hope ED fixes the issue.

Edited July 19, 2024 by CarbonFox

[Dr Zaius]

On 7/18/2024 at 1:07 PM, Nunyer said:

I managed to work around this issue. Obviously can't guarantee this will work for anybody else, but here's what I did: 

 

1) Load into the full game from the launcher, ignore and cancel the pop-up for Flaming Cliffs 3 that will start the loop

2) Go to module manager, then go to the "installed" tab

3) From the installed tab, check the box next to all FC3 items (F-15C for DCS World, MIG-29 for DCS World, etc) and select "delete"

Once you reload and get back into the full game (not the new launcher but the full game), the pop-up * should * now list the individual jets in addition to the Flaming Cliffs 3 item that originally started the loop. Remove the check on the FC3 pack, add the check to all the individual jets then click ok. Game should exit and kickoff the download. Once that was done and the game reloaded, all my FC3 modules were accessible. I still get the original "Flaming Cliffs 3" pop-up that starts the previous loop when I load into the game, but it appears this can now be safely ignored. 

Do we only delete legacy FC3 aircraft for this to work or the 3 new ones (F-86, F-5 & MiG15) as well?

[orbmis]

19 hours ago, Dr Zaius said:

Do we only delete legacy FC3 aircraft for this to work or the 3 new ones (F-86, F-5 & MiG15) as well?

Oh dear,, you're seeing this similar problem with even the newer FC2024 installed? And, my understanding is that you need to be on V296, as it is required for FC2024? Just wondering what might happen if you uninstall/delete all of the legacy FC3 aircraft first, and then -full install- FC2024 again. Starting to become clearer that these issues are specifically tied to the V296 update.

Let us know if you make any progress.

Edited July 20, 2024 by orbmis

[FNZ]

I have a doubt.
I have FC3 and the FC2024 update via Steam, transferred to Stand alone.
It seems to me that before "the update" and the FC2024 update I had training missions with the A10 AND the F15 (included in FC3).
But I don't have them anymore. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

[MAXsenna]

I have a doubt.
I have FC3 and the FC2024 update via Steam, transferred to Stand alone.
It seems to me that before "the update" and the FC2024 update I had training missions with the A10 AND the F15 (included in FC3).
But I don't have them anymore. Is my memory playing tricks on me?

There are some excellent user made training missions for those modules. And I believe they were made because the A-10A/F-15C didn't have any.

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[FNZ]

On 7/21/2024 at 7:35 PM, MAXsenna said:

There are some excellent user made training missions for those modules. And I believe they were made because the A-10A/F-15C didn't have any.

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Indeed, I confused it with the training missions I downloaded at the time.
I just did the first one, very good quality, very professional.
For those who are interested, I recommend it.

For the A-10A

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/fr/files/3315446/

Thanks MAXsenna.

 

Edit: For the F-15C

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3313014/

Edited July 23, 2024 by FNZ
Add link for the F15-C