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After the most recent recent patch, I am unable to fly the F-15C (flaming cliffs). Cold start, free flight, doesn't matter. The screen shows the map, and thats it. The voice-overs work, and if I hit F2 I can see the jet, but cannot get into the cockpit. The jet seems under AI control as well.

In other threads I have seen other folks with the same issue. I was hoping that the FC auth fix would fix this as well.

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Posted

Remove mods.

Try DCS MT preview.

Do DCS repair/clean.

Try with clean \saved games\dcs profile.

Check AV software for quarantined/deleted DCS files.

Upload \saved games\dcs\logs\dcs.log.

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Posted

Are you sure you are trying to fly the F-15C variant and not Spino's F-15EX mod that uses the C cockpit? Your issue sounds like that's what the problem is.

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Posted (edited)
13 hours ago, Darkdiz said:

After the most recent recent patch, I am unable to fly the F-15C (flaming cliffs). Cold start, free flight, doesn't matter. The screen shows the map, and thats it. The voice-overs work, and if I hit F2 I can see the jet, but cannot get into the cockpit. The jet seems under AI control as well.

In other threads I have seen other folks with the same issue. I was hoping that the FC auth fix would fix this as well.

If you use the Mission Editor to place an F-15C on the map, can you set it to “Player” or is only “Client” available in the “Skill” menu?

Edited by Ironhand

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Ironhand said:

If you use the Mission Editor to place an F-15C on the map, can you set it to “Player” or is only “Client” available in the “Skill” menu?

 

Player not available in ME IIRC, client only. I made a custom mission for it, still no joy

3 hours ago, plott1964 said:

Are you sure you are trying to fly the F-15C variant and not Spino's F-15EX mod that uses the C cockpit? Your issue sounds like that's what the problem is.

I don't have that mod, I DO have the F-15E (RAZBAM). I'm choosing the FC3 F-15C, which USED to work fine until the upgrade(?) to FC2024

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, draconus said:

Remove mods.

Try DCS MT preview.

Do DCS repair/clean.

Try with clean \saved games\dcs profile.

Check AV software for quarantined/deleted DCS files.

Upload \saved games\dcs\logs\dcs.log.

All tried. Repair/clean done, AV software (Macafee) files excluded (would be nice to be able to exclude the entire DCS folder, but Macafee is files only AFAIK)

Line 3405 in the log says the F-15C FM does not exist, not sure where that would have gone, the F-15C.dll is in the Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft\F-15C\bin folder

 

dcs.log

Edited by Darkdiz

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Posted (edited)
51 minutes ago, Darkdiz said:

Player not available in ME IIRC, client only. I made a custom mission for it, still no joy

I don't have that mod, I DO have the F-15E (RAZBAM). I'm choosing the FC3 F-15C, which USED to work fine until the upgrade(?) to FC2024

You might want to do a cleanup and slow repair. Either that or remove and reinstall FC3. The latter has worked for some people.

Edited by Ironhand
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Posted

Just did a full slow repair. Fired up no mods, log attached. Line 3373 says it all, no FM for the F-15C

I'll try uninstalling FC3

dcs.log

Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect

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Posted

Uninstalled, re-installed, no change. All I get is the map, and the voice overs (using Marianas Free Flight Instant action)

Line 3380 F-15C FM not exist

dcs.log

Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect

AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)

Posted
12 minutes ago, Darkdiz said:

Uninstalled, re-installed, no change. All I get is the map, and the voice overs (using Marianas Free Flight Instant action)

Line 3380 F-15C FM not exist

dcs.log 420.78 kB · 0 downloads

You're wasting time. Lots of mods in your profile.

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Posted

The number of mods is most likely not the issue. Looks like "FM does not exist" is the main problem. Did you have FC3 installed before upgrading with the patch and FC2024?

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Posted

I had FC3 installed, it worked fine. After I upgraded to FC2024, the F-15C stopped working (clearly the log I posted confirms that, no F-15C FM).

BTW, I am NOT the only one having this issue

 

Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect

AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)

  • Solution
Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Darkdiz said:

I had FC3 installed, it worked fine. After I upgraded to FC2024, the F-15C stopped working (clearly the log I posted confirms that, no F-15C FM).

BTW, I am NOT the only one having this issue

 

In this other thread that you posted in, have you seen BIGNEWY’s responses? 

and…

At a minimum, before you try anything, rename your mods folder in Saved Games so that none of those mods load. Once the problem is solved, then you can go back to it.

Edited by Ironhand

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Posted

I completely uninstalled FC3 using the new launcher. Then I installed each individual aircraft, which all work except for the F-15c.

Renamed the sub folders in the saved games Mods folder (I kept SRS, Tacview and LOTATC)

Lo and behold, one of the mods (I suspect the flaming cliffs one) is causing the issue.

@Ironhand don't ever let anyone tell you that you are nothing less than a ROCKSTAR!

Your help has been awesome. Now to replace the mods that I want to keep

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Talent hits a target no one else can hit, genius hits a target no one else can detect

AMD Ryzen 9 3900x CPU@4.5Ghz, ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero Motherboard, 64GB Corsair Venegence DDR 3200 RAM, MSI Rtx 3060 12GB GPU, MSI Rtx 4060 8GB GPU, 40" and 37" 1920x1080 Samsung Monitor, 40" 1920x1080 Sony Monitor, 1TB Seagate Firecuda M2 PCIe 4 OS SSD, 2TB Western Digital Blue M2 PCIe 3 storage SSD, 8TB Samsung 870QVO storage SSD, Western Digital Blue 1TB storage SATA, 2x Thrustmaster T16000 (LH and RH), Warthog Joy/Throttle/TPRS, 6 x Cougar MFDs (4 with Generic VGA 800x600 displays), Track IR 5 with IR Trackstar V3, Logitech G915 Tactile Keyboard, Logitech G502 Lightspeed Mouse, Logitech G935 Headset, Next Level Racing HF8 Haptic Gaming Pad, Windows 10 Pro 64-bit

Soul: None (sold long ago to the MGOMU, also known as Princess)

Posted
3 hours ago, Darkdiz said:

…Renamed the sub folders in the saved games Mods folder (I kept SRS, Tacview and LOTATC)

Lo and behold, one of the mods (I suspect the flaming cliffs one) is causing the issue…

Glad you got it sorted out. Enjoy! 🙂

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  • 6 months later...
Posted (edited)

I have that issue.   Last night I dropped all of the FC aircraft and did a full repair.  I changed the folder name of the Mods so they vanished.   I was able to get back into the 15 again and flew it a few times.  Reinstalled all of the FC aircraft.   Still works.

Installed the mods folder again and back to having the jet but no cockpit.   This fixed my F-104G mod and was able to fly that again.  Turn off User / Mods and I get the F15C back.  So I guess its a User / Mods issue.

In the main game folder I noticed in the Core Mods - no F15C folder.   In the Mods folder - I have a F15C folder.   Why is it missing from Core Mods?

Edited by Saguanay
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Posted
41 minutes ago, Saguanay said:

Why is it missing from Core Mods?

It's ok. Some AI aircraft have different files and folders.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Saguanay said:

Weird then.   Cause I think everything else is there.

No, a lot of models (AI aircraft including) are found in Bazar/World/Shapes. The new ones are also in the CoreMods\tech\HeavyMetalCore\Shapes. There's no one single place for all aircraft.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Saguanay said:

In the main game folder I noticed in the Core Mods - no F15C folder.   In the Mods folder - I have a F15C folder.   Why is it missing from Core Mods?

Originally the “Mods” folder was were all a/c lived. As more aircraft arrived, a Core Mods folder added.

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