What angles are you using on your Apache collective?

[Uncle]

So I installed the apache collected and it feels so awesome, but I do wonder what your solutions are for high angles you get with the apache collective.

Right now I've installed the 40 degrees angle and that seems too high. So I might try and add the 30 degree instead or lower the collective a bit.

Any tips and tricks you can share? 

A bit of ghetto setup I Know  

[Vakarian]

Even with 30 degree it's still a bit too much of a throw IMO. I did ask Virpil back when this released are they considering creating even larger limiter to do ~20 degree throw angle, but only thing they responded with is "they'll think about it".

It might be worth to ping them again.

If you want something else, then all I can think of is to create your own limiter "somehow" to reduce the throw and recalibrate.

[speed-of-heat]

i guess thinking about ergonomics i really wouldn't its highest point to reach above my waistline and it's lowest much below my thighs when seated... your body may vary ... 

[Wostg]

30 as well but always playing with negative curves. Not ideal but I hate pulling so much just to lift off, realistic or no. 

[Vakarian]

You could screw in some bracket at the base of the handle (shiny part) that will limit the highest point. It's a hack, but it could work

[Uncle]

yeah ill think ill give it a go with the 30 degree and then lowering the whole base it self.

[Vakarian]

Oh definitely position the base so when its at its lowest to be where your fully extended arm would be. That's the easiest way to ensure at least one endstop is at the correct position for you. Then only thing left to do is to limit how high it can go, but that in the DIY region now unfortunately

[Guest]

If the lever throw is too big even with 30 degree limiter then you can calibrate the axis in such a way that the axis will give 100% even when the lever is not in the extreme UP position.
To achieve that just recalibrate the axes in vpc configuration but don't push the lever all the way before saving the results.
Hope this makes sense.

An AD HOC solution that I wanted to share.

 

[Rogue Trooper]

30 degrees worked best for me and still has very high resolution.

I mounted my collective low so when the collective is fully down, the flight grip falls into the hand comfortably with a straight down arm, the mission grip requires a drop of the shoulder and slight lean left to fully grip with the hand.

At max collective, the Mission "grip" is level with the top of my thigh.

Normal flight operation has the mission grip around the bottom/centre of the thigh.

 

[MAXsenna]

On 8/1/2024 at 2:57 PM, Qsenox said:

If the lever throw is too big even with 30 degree limiter then you can calibrate the axis in such a way that the axis will give 100% even when the lever is not in the extreme UP position.
To achieve that just recalibrate the axes in vpc configuration but don't push the lever all the way before saving the results.
Hope this makes sense.

An AD HOC solution that I wanted to share.

 

You're better off calibrating to its full range, and then you just lower the saturarion in DCS.